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[–] Supermikea@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

Really like how the artist used the "? face" to symbolize anonimity and drawing the after with real faces to tell that anonimity is gone.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago

Good old times

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I always though it was anonymity, but its more likely the missing human connection. On the internet, our thoughts are transmitted without seeing the person before us in real time, so some may act different, forgetting there is a person on the other side.

There's obviously people who don't give a shit, but they were just assholes to begin with.

[–] o1011o@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Fear of retaliation by the physical human in front of you as well. Some people are good because they believe in the value of goodness but a lot of them only act right when they can't get away with being awful.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

But he's the dev. If we defederate we won't get support, and since the software is a janky piece of crap we need that support.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Raising $600k after going public about dropping the N-bomb on a child might have something to do with this.

A few incredibly racist billionaires are financing endless waves of bigotry and brutality. Until they stop, this is only going to get worse.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago

Hate is victimized now and it is a powerful tool for controlling the masses.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

People on Lemmy are getting bad too, you can’t disagree with someone in the most inoffensive way without getting a response full of hateful comments or name calling. Like if had a face to face discussion with a stranger I wouldn’t be like “you’re a brain dead idiot and you’re stupid” that’s rude as fuck, but that’s just how people respond to each other around here and it’s awful

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

One factor is that on the internet the only thing people know about you is your opinion that disagrees with them.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is completely false and not true. You’re a brain dead idiot and you’re stupid!! :@

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

But their mom says they're cool

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

you can’t disagree with someone in the most inoffensive way without getting a response full of hateful comments or name calling.

That is by design. Debate and counter viewpoints are an existential threat to both extremists and propagandists alike.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don’t feed the trolls

  • Long forgotten adage, internet
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Dead Internet Theory suggests these racist accounts are all just self-perpetuating whether you engage or not.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I thought I could feed trolls before midnight?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I kind of miss the anonymity of the internet. It's too easy to be ostracized now.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 11 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's genuinely disturbing how many information these sites have about us.

Clicking on a Xitter link gives them enough information that they could probably direct a reasonably accurate drone strike against you.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

TOR walks into the room

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 17 hours ago

And after browsing for a few hours on these sites they know you better than you do.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 94 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I still blame the algorithms. Angry people click more => let's assure they always get more to click.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

im chill with algoithms as long as theyre FOSS and don't manipulate people

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the for profit corporate capture really. When everyone started thinking of the internet as 5 websites and their bank.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

I remember when people would get seriously angry if you posted commercial speech in a communal area of the Internet.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I still blame the algorithms.

And I think that's a lack of memory. Where were those "algorithms" in flame wars on news groups, mailing lists, fora on the Internet & Web 1.0?

Even when the web became highly commercialized, there remained non-commercial sites of largely unmoderated, anonymized discussion & imageboards driven by the "hivemind": where were "the algorithms" there?

It's unrestrained people uninhibited from putting their unfiltered thoughts online to stir discussion: no "algorithms" required. "The algorithms" steer even the least sophisticated users to the content that captures their attention. And moderation maintains that attention by subduing those elements that would result in users ragequitting the Internet & missing those ads they scroll past.

Maybe we need to bring back ragequitting?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You've misspelled capitalism.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It's a gray line, as the drive for celebrity isn't strictly capitalist but is definitely rewarded under capitalism.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

I meant "the algorithm", that the parent comment mentions. Designing an algorithm that is driven by clickrate in order to gain more ad revenue is motivated by capitalistic forces.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Anything bad == capitalism.

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

“SHITCOCK”

(Quick edit: daaaamn that really was 21 years ago…)

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I was there, Gandalf...

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

The Suckening was 24 years ago. That fact just gets funnier and funnier as the number goes up.

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was never just the anonymity, it was the lack of consequences as well. Combined those two often lead to people showing their worst selves.

Now though? Often those worst characteristics are applauded by others. It's disappointing.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is, things are so divided right now that you can say anything and one half of the divide will support you just about no matter what.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

People are extremely desperate to live in a black and white world with no nuance or shades of gray, they want to live in a world of Right or Wrong and believe everyone should agree with them or they’re stupid

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also the best, not just the worst. I agree but I hate to be pessimistic. Back then we used to dig to the shit to find a few hidden gems. The amount of gems stayed the same but the pile of shit got bigger. I liked the internet more when it was more like island with a lot of activity instead of bridges everywhere (I know the irony being on Lemmy). I miss active bulletin boards. Reddit really killed forums. Everyone wants convenience instead of quality. And everyone seems to be in a hurry

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know, the people sending death threats to anyone that calls their favorite internet personality dumb seem preety bent on doing so behind fake e-mails and names...

[–] brandocorp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago

Right, this is the other side of the same coin, and also feels like a part of what people seem to have forgotten about the Internet.

Before: Don't give out your personal info to anyone online. You have no idea who's on the other side!

Now: Hey, everyone, here's my name, and all the details of my life, and all the opinions I hold. Hope you all like it!

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but also targeted advertising and invasive data harvesting.

The internet was definitely better before.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's almost like a large-scale social experiment, with the result that there seem to be many profoundly evil people whose malicious beliefs are artificially pushed by billionaire "gatekeepers" to a point where they can appear socially acceptable, a few good people who have less and less say due to social media logic and content overload, and a large majority who just stand by and watch civilization go down the drain because they're too lazy to change their habits and just rely on someone else to fix this mess, if they even recognize the problem in the first place.

In this context, I think the definition of public opinion established by political scientist Elisabeth Noelle-Neumann back in the 1980s is once again highly relevant:

"Public opinion is the opinion dominant in public which can be expressed without risk of social isolation."

The spiral of silence : public opinion, our social skin (1984)

Noelle-Neumann emphasized that public opinion is not just any opinion, but specifically those views that are visible, vocal, and supported by the majority, making them safe to express in public. This ties closely to her "Spiral of Silence" theory, where individuals may refrain from expressing minority views due to fear of social isolation.

The great problem of our current media situation seems to be that these public opinions are increasingly artificially constructed since they just seem like majority opinions, even if they are not, because they get pushed so hard by the influential crooks controlling major parts of the Internet (social media and search engine monopolies and so on).

So I think today's web has become almost the opposite of what early Internet utopians had in mind.

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