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[–] alokir@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Piece talks between Russia and Ukraine" is something that Russian backed right wingers love to talk about. The only thing that they don't mention is at what cost to Ukraine.

[–] Tomassci@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I may be lost but preety much everyone wants peace talks, no?

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

We tried peace talks.

Russia doesn't want peace. It wants Ukraine to surrender.

The problem never was that we didn't try peace talks. We did try a lot of negotiations. Russia refused all of them

[–] alokir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, I should have been more specific.

It's a common talking point in my home country that Ukraine and Russia should stop fighting immediately and have peace talks.

But when Russia occupies parts of Ukraine they won't say "yeah, sorry, my bad, we'll leave", they'll want to enforce their demands, which will most likely be territories and/or installing a Russian puppet government.

The problem is not peace talks but doing it right now. Ukraine will have to at least push them back and weaken them first.

It's not a good precedent to let major powers invade their neighbors and be able to immediately get what they want.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

"Critical support for our fascist comrades" - Tankies

[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't be the first time the fash and red fash have supported each other.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Any time I see Molotov's name I can't but laugh a bit on the history of term "Molotov's Cocktail"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_cocktail#Etymology

Etymology Edit Vyacheslav Molotov, 1945

The name "Molotov cocktail" was coined by the Finns during the Winter War (Finnish: Molotovin cocktail) in 1939.[10][11][12] The name was a pejorative reference to Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov, who was one of the architects of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact on the eve of World War II.

The name's origin came from the propaganda Molotov produced during the Winter War, mainly his declaration on Soviet state radio that incendiary bombing missions over Finland were actually "airborne humanitarian food deliveries" for their "starving" neighbours.[13][10] As a result, the Finns sarcastically dubbed the Soviet incendiary cluster bombs "Molotov bread baskets" (Finnish: Molotovin leipäkori) in reference to Molotov's propaganda broadcasts.[14][10] When the hand-held bottle firebomb was developed to attack and destroy Soviet tanks, the Finns called it the "Molotov cocktail", as "a drink to go with his food parcels".[15][16]

Despite the now infamous name, the formal Finnish military term for the weapon type was, and continues to be, "burn-bottle" (Finnish: polttopullo,[10][3] Fenno-Swedish: brännflaska).[2]

Man brain is lost on them

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Pro-LGBTQ... Posts on a community that has Stalin's face...

[–] cicapocok@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

When my country was overrun by the soviets and the fascist government surrendered many of those same people who served the nazis joined the stalinist.

[–] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

More like circle theory