Eh, the US dying is necessary for anything good to happen. Much more concerned about stuff like India/Pakistan kicking off due to the (climate change-induced) drop in water level in a major river and the associated water rights. Climate change in general is already locked in to "truly horrific" assuming Climate Stalin is given unilateral control of the entire globe with 0 opposition today.
this post was submitted on 01 May 2025
39 points (97.6% liked)
doomer
925 readers
135 users here now
What is Doomer? :(
It is a nebulous thing that may include but is not limited to Climate Change posts or Collapse posts.
Include sources when applicable for doomer posts, consider checking out !bloomer@www.hexbear.net once in awhile.
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
And wouldn’t that be nice
the US dying is necessary for anything good to happen.
Climate change in general is already locked in to "truly horrific"
Sounds like nothing good is going to happen anyway (fwiw I agree with you completely)
Shits going to be hard for people in America. Oh well, we kinda deserve it after living high off the hog at the expense of the global south for the past 80 years.
The world/planet will be fine. Humanity will survive long term, barring complete nuclear catastrophe. I don't doom to much despite the inevitable shitstorm awaiting us
Conservatives love to say we are three meals away from chaos. I want this country to collapse. Get fucked. Soon enough everyone will hate these motherfuckers, democrat and republican.
I thought Lenin said that?
If liberals start to understand in America that labour movements will not come from their party system and has to come from actual action from the people then you can save your country. Trumps presidency might be the thing that actually makes that happen.
Nah. The liberal motif is to engage the least “confrontational” option. So they’re going to stand in streets with signs, but only on their days off or on a sanctioned day off with PTO.
There with be no confronting of the management or the workplace.
I’m so sick of liberals trying to say some version of “violence doesn’t help a movement! You’re damaging what we’re trying to do!”
Violence is the only real thing that pushes movements forward when it’s at this point and your cowardice is sabotaging it.
🥰
I hope you're right but I think you overestimate our liberals
I live in a VERY red county on the west coast and I've been hearing and seeing interesting things. While there are the usual low-info, reactionary attention seeking magats that will never question what their echo chambers program them with, there are right leaning people who are openly placing the blame where it should be. Just like the liberals, they don't get upset until it impacts them directly.
If the people who voted for this clown show are starting to feel like they got sold up the river, then I have hope that the liberals are also getting restless and upset by a larger margin.
Historically liberals in the same situation have been massive failures in this regard, so im probably wrong. But a man can dream, can’t he?
No liberals just become fascists when they're scratched
They aren’t fascists, they’re cowards that will enable fascism because of it. It’s a small distinction but it’s an important one.
They will become fascist when it becomes expedient to do so. They will protest the concentration camps until they get hit with economic precarity and realize that signing up to become a concentration camp guard is a sweet gig.
Start forming networks of support.
How? I have no idea
Do you know your neighbors? Start there.
More direction or detail would be appreciated.
Not a lot to add, but it was a theme back on the subreddit that if you live in a neoliberal hellscape, just knowing your neighbors is praxis in itself. Sorry if they're chuds, depends a lot on where you live.
Part of this is that you know the imperial core is in for some hard times, which means that you're in for some hard times along with it. Maybe that's for the greater good, sure, but it still will probably suck. If you're reading this, it's extremely likely that you are the most capable leader of your community, so I hope everyone here is giving it a shot. Maybe you're the leader of like your apartment hallway, or maybe you're mayor idk, but it's too dangerous to be entirely on your own out here. If anything, do step 1.
This whole thing assumes you live within the city limits of somewhere and falls secondary to doing work in an actual org. Ideal to do this in addition to an org, and maybe you can't or won't join an org, whatever, here's another thing:
Steps:
- Introduce yourself to people, especially if you live directly adjacent to people.
- Be pleasant and apolitical in your conversations, strive for harmony. If they have a trump flag or bumper sticker just leave them out of this whole thing.
- Find an issue in you community to work on and advocate for. It can be a traffic issue, easy enough to find unless you live in Amsterdam or Tokyo or something. Could be something else.
- Attend meetings for your neighborhood association, hoa，and/or your city council. Don't give that shit up to the chuds, and if they're liberals, they need guidance.
- Find out about orgs in your community. Chuds, libs, progressives, whoever, if you aren't going to join one of them (or maybe you are ) why wouldn't you know this about where you live? We sit here and yap about material nature of the core of global geopolitics, we should apply that same thinking to our front doorstep.
- when shit gets tough, the people located physically close to you are going to matter the most. Even if shit never goes apocalyptic it's still valuable to know them. Being involved in your community makes a little something good here or there possible while everywhere else is hellworld.
Get your whole town or neighborhood together on an elaborate scheme to create the most perfect US hundred dollar bill forgeries in history. Think thousands of people working together with the secrecy of the Manhattan Project. Heavily arm your entire town. Get the cops in on the action. Hell, have them help enforce secrecy. If you're caught, the feds won't actually want to arrest anyone, as they don't want to have a bloodbath on their hands. They'll let everyone off with a slap on the wrist if you agree to simply stop printing money, and for the ring leaders to confess to minor crimes without jail sentences.
Basically found a city of forgers. Make the cost of stopping you so monumentally high that you'll tie the feds hands even if you are caught. Enrich each other collectively while undermining the federal government financially. Feel free to also engage in other forms of forgery and intellectual property violations as well. Sell pirated expensive medications for dirt cheap prices to people all over your region.
/s
Join a local socialist organization. People say it on this site everyday.
Google your city + "mutual aid". You'll find people in your area who at the very least care. Then you'll find more things based on the people you meet there.
Check out the book We Are Our Own Liberators by Jalil Muntaqim
We're cooked, in multiple ways I'm afraid. This might be as good as it gets.
my doomer thing today was h5n1 bird flu not tariff induced economic collapse but its feeling like we're pretty cooked
OoooooO new thing 2 worry abt!??? LFGGGGG
You're going to need a necromancer for this raid party 💀
Share the doomer news with the class pls I main DPS/support
Embrace sicko mode.
They're not completely empty, I think it's about a 40% decrease, which is crazy.