Dividing the left wouldn't matter if we used a more representative voting system. One that gave people the freedom to vote how they want and still have their vote count if their preference didn't win. Voters should be able to transfer their vote how they wish and stay represented. To have their vote count no matter what.

Why don't blue states switch away from First-past-the-post voting? Republicans aren't in power, they could easily make this change. Don't they believe in democracy? Or do prefer this undemocratic hostage situation that hands the republicans power repeatedly?

Electoral Reform Videos

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Alternative voting systems have in practice been proven useless, whether in South Korea, Japan, Australia, and many other capitalist dictatorship countries that use it. It might make bribery a bit more expensive, since there are more candidates to buy off, and more political advertising necessary, but it hasn't fixed anything.

The root problem is capital standing above political power. And that can't be undone using it's own platform.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

You're right that it doesn't solve much but the two party system in the US is particularly terrible. Fundamental change is a lot harder to achieve than changing voting systems and even with a socialist state we'd want one of these, so I think there's no point opposing it even if it isn't a panacea

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemm.ee 1 points 3 minutes ago

Agreed. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of good. Even if it ONLY makes bribery more expensive, is that not a good thing?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

"you're hurting your cause!!" whines liberal who hates both you and your cause

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I started asking questions whenever some right winger would start in with the whole “here’s what you’re doing wrong” routine. “And you think this will help the far left succeed?” or “So you believe that’s the best way to get people to vote for the leftist candidate?” Just messing around since they are obviously not providing legitimate feedback.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (16 children)

In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.

-Hannah Arendt

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 19 hours ago

"Erm acturally thats tankie propaganda, dont you know our Good Guy Candidate™ isnt Fascist he's actually Fascist Lite™ which is totally different. Yes he's going to blindly support genocide, yes he's going to support imperialism, and no he wont do a damn thing to help the workers, but you see these silly graphs we made up say the economy is going and therefore our guy is qualified. Now blindly support the candidate and the party or I'll downvote you and call you a Tankie or a Russian bot."

Average .world user

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Democrats are center right these days.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 34 minutes ago

Center right? You're giving them too much credit

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Always have been.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I don't think this is correct. There was a marked post-Reagan shift to the right. Sure, they were never socialists, but decades ago they at least tried to do something for the working class.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd argue them being centre-left between 1929 and 1973, from the start of the great depression up until the petrodollar agreement and Bretton Woods II, out of fear communism winning during that time.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

FDR was in that era and was pretty far left. Look at the tax rates he set in motion, the fuckers get mad when they get taxed over 90%. FDR gets elected four terms, has five assassination attempts and many more plots and starts the economy on the path to recovery after the Republicans decimated it with tatmriffs.

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