Remember when trump's guy had Netanyahu accept the ceasefire during the sabbath?
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The only terrorists are the American and Israeli regimes
Russia's pretty up there, too. And I'm sure there's plenty going on throughout Africa that I am only vaguely aware of.
What about the Chinese govt RE: Uyghurs and whatnot.
Admittedly, I'm conflating genocide and war crimes with terrorism...
Russia’s pretty up there, too.
Not really. It is a capitalist oligarchy, much like the US and Israel, but it’s not (presently) an imperialist one, despite Western claims to the contrary.
What about the Chinese govt RE: Uyghurs and whatnot.
Idk man I'm pretty sure both Ben and Don are on board with killing Palestinians
This is a non sequitur. Of course they are both on board with killing Palestinians. The meme states that the US controls Israel not the other way around. Americans pretend like they have no power and are under control of the evil Jewish lobby. This is a bullshit construct, the US is the evil empire. Israel is essentially part of the US.
As was Joe.
Nasrallah was wrong on this one.
How?
Israel clearly controls the US not the other way around. Israel assigned a Zionist as the US Lebanese ambassador and is actively trying to start a civil war in Lebanon. This is not good long term politics.
Zionist organisation Betar is currently higher in US legal power than US judges. They are assigning students to deport.
If the US stopped existing tomorrow (god willing) Israel would disappear. If Israel were to be destroyed the US would create another. Zionism is a tool of American foreign policy. AIPAC and pro Zionist orgs are comprised of Americans and serve American foreign interests. Israel is a settler colony like Rhodesia, it isn't the secret mastermind of the global empire. The fact that US judges are being arrested and are of lower status to Betar is not evidence that the power lies in Israel controlling the US. The power lies in Brooklyn, part of the US, and is part of their internal power dynamics.
Not to mention that within the entity itself, you'll find out that a lot of them are actually Americans if not European lol
Israel assigned a Zionist as the US Lebanese ambassador and is actively trying to start a civil war in Lebanon.
This wouldn't have been possible (at best, it'd be difficult) had the US and the remaining West not continued their unimpeded financial, military, etc.. support for the genocidal entity, though. It's not referred to as the "51st state" or the "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for no reason. All of the other reasons here are in line with the US' interests anyway, I don't see how they suggest the U.S. being the "subservient" one.
The US can order the entity to a "complete cease-fire" on a whim with a single phone call. If that's not emblematic of the clear-in-place Father-Son relationship, then I don't know what is.
The US can end the genocide with a single phone call. The question you should ask yourself is why it doesn't. Do you really think this is good policy?
I don't understand, what's your point? Why would a settler-colonial entity want to stop another settler-colonial entity from continuing to erase an entire population and exert its influence on the region on top of stealing its resources? It doesn't because it's not in its current interest to do so.
Because the liberal world order runs on not showing that it is a genocidal entity. The mask is supposed to stay on.
I think this is not as simple as A controls B. There are many groups and individuals active in both countries who influence politics and media. I don't think anyone centrally controlls them. It is a way more chaotic system than that.
This is true. For example Israel does not care about American fossil fuel industry. The fossil fuel industry does not care about Israel. Nor big chicken etc.
There are many different lobbies, often with completely different interests, which do not conflict with each other.
What Israel does control however is the American policy regarding Israel and the Middle East. That is where their lobbyists are.
The only time we see any pushback is for example when Saudi Arabia does not want America to bomb Iran because Iran will destroy the Saudi oil.
What about both are conspiracies, and people act as they see fit? Doesn't mean they'll do good or not abide to their partners rules
This is so vague that it could be interpreted to mean almost anything.
The morality of the meme was "You think Israel controls US when it is US who controls Israel". I say it's a very bold claim either way. They have aligned ideals but they can't be considered only as the tool of the other. Clearly if US were to stop funding Israel's plans they would not be able to fight as much, but US also benefit from Israel with weaponry, war engineering and intel.
It is not a bold claim. Israel was front the outset an European colonial project which gained support from the US and Britain to gain a satellite in West Asia, as its unsinkable aircraft carrier/missile platform. The huge amounts of "aid" that has been given to them from its inception should be ample proof (whomever pays for the band picks the music) but US politicians aren't shy about it either, as with Biden
Were there not an Israel the United States would have to invent an Israel
It's a healthy mindset to be doubtful when it comes to memes but given recent events the thought of the US using military aid as leverage to have their way with an ally is not all that controversial. Consider that Israel would cease to exist if the US decided to stop funding the IDF.
I think Nasarallah is right, the full quote is that the Israel lobby conspiracy was created by the Arabs so they could feel ok taking American money and depositing money there. The Israel lobby is comprised of Americans. Netanyahu, though born in Israel, was raised in the US.