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[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Remember the scene from Saving Private Ryan? The trick to falling asleep is trying to stay awake. Let me explain...

When you are on the couch you are not trying to go to sleep, so you can drift off effortlessly because you are not thinking about going to sleep. It sneaks up on you and catches your conscious, thinking mind unaware.

When you get ready for bed and get in bed, you are focused one thing: going to sleep. And of course being aware that you need to go to sleep makes it impossible to turn your brain off since your conscious mind is intensely aware of the fact that it is time to fall asleep. There is no way for sleep to sneak up on you. And the more you cannot fall asleep the more anxiety you have about not being able to fall asleep and the fact that you will be too tired in the morning because you did not sleep enough. It is a negative feedback spiral that feeds upon itself.

I have not magic wand to fix this. I try to not stress out over not falling asleep, because I feel like it feeds the spiral, but I also have trouble turning my brain off. The one thing I do that I think helps a little bit is not to think about real-world events or problems. I try inventing fictional stories with imaginary characters. This helps avoid stress related to real-world problems I have. It helps a little bit.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

This is where sleep sounds and lofi music helps people. If they're listening intensely to the sounds, they're not focusing on trying to sleep.

I couple that with an eye mask (which isn't for everyone, of course), so even when I open my eyes I can't see anything.

Another important thing is to deprive yourself of blue light. Get that phone screen turned off. Close the curtains. Make the room so dark you can't see your hand in front of your face.

Individual mileage on any advice given by anyone will vary, of course, especially if you have phobias.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 62 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I gave up this fight. If I'm tired on the couch I just fall asleep on the couch. Sleep in bad conditions > no sleep in good conditions.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 20 points 12 hours ago

As a child, I had to super power to fall asleep on the couch and wake up in bed the next morning

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Couch sleep gang. For like a week I was wondering if my partner was done with me because she kept sleeping in the couch, but nope. She just fell asleep there and wouldn't move

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

she feels bad telling you about the loud snoring

[–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 13 hours ago

Oh fuck so many bad memories have surfaced by this comment.

[–] Potti@lemmy.world 32 points 14 hours ago

You'll most likely have to move through at least one door so your body just forgets that it wanted to go to bed to sleep

[–] piefood@feddit.online 19 points 14 hours ago

For me, I found out it was the bathroom light! Indoor light messes with our circadian rythm, and I was going into the brightest room in the house right before going to bed. Putting a night-light in the bathroom helped me fall asleep in bed faster

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago

The bed has expectations of sleep. Whereas the couch is entirely liminal.

[–] AnAverageSnoot@lemmy.ca 17 points 14 hours ago

Usually people have something in the background on a couch like a TV or music that can help lull them to sleep. Beds usually require you to listen to your thoughts and shut down for the day before sleeping. I think it really comes down to your habits and how you've conditioned yourself. I have no issues in falling asleep as soon as I hit the bed even if it's for a nap.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago

I think it has something to do with having to get into an upright position and moving. It feels like it raises your pulse and blood pressure and adrenaline. At least to me it's this, because I often fall asleep with my daughter in her bed. And I literally only have to move to the bed next to hers, and still this wakes me up so much that, like clockwork, I need 1 hour 30 minutes to feel sleepy again.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

I am dealing with this as we speak. Maybe the phone is the problem.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 15 hours ago

It's just a bit late and arrives as soon as you need to get up.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 1 points 12 hours ago

All your energy settles down at your feet when you're sitting, so your head gets tired, you lay down, all that energy is now spread from head to toe, energizing your brain.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

I thought she was giving me shit for always being 'ready to go' in bed.