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Elon Musk's social media platform X sued Minnesota on Wednesday over a state law that bans people from using AI-generated "deepfakes" to influence an election, which the company said violated protections of free speech.

The law replaces social media platforms' judgment about the content with the judgment of the state and threatens criminal liability if the platforms get it wrong, according to the lawsuit that was filed in Minnesota federal court.

"This system will inevitably result in the censorship of wide swaths of valuable political speech and commentary," X said in its complaint. Musk has described himself as a free speech absolutist and he did away with Twitter's content moderation policy when he bought the company in 2022 and renamed it X.

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[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Makes sense why he wanted to buy the election.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 57 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Deep fake Musk saying that he retracts and drops the suing case, and play it in court.

But make it obviously fake, maybe include his children in it showing love and affection towards him, or something equally far fetched, like him beating a tutorial boss

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I made this but idk how to share it bc catbox.moe never works for me, imgur is down, and I don't have a peertube account

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are you telling him to just Xit it out?

And what does he do once this message has been Xat?

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

He can Xit it all over Xitter and they will b& the poster, having Xat all over their supposed free speech commitment which we all know is Xit.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 hours ago

like him beating a tutorial boss

Lmao.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

Have him show empathy. That will prove it's fake.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But if they make it as real as possible, that would be a giga-chad legal move. (But illegal under the law that is being challanged)

If they can convince to anyone in the court room that the video is real evidence, then it proves their point. It would put Felon in a tough logical situation. He can continue his challange and the state will point to the deepfake of himself giving contradictory statements, or he can drop it and the state's lawyers then did a crime, and they open them selves up to another lawsuit.

Its a bold move cotton, lets see if it plays out.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

If it is only used in court it isn't influencing an election. So they'd still be in the clear.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 39 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Ah, yes, X. The platform that reduces your visibility if you criticize Musk.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hello, i am a deranged oblong. Can I procreate with you? I know video games and rockets?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

I know video games and rockets

(x) Doubt

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

It is not a violation of your speech rights, this is defending you from enemy propaganda!

P.S. I'm disenchanted in people for a very long time already so I clearly state that the previous sentence was sarcasm.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

This only makes he think this is one of the ways he’s been trying to influence elections already. Must be pretty effective if he is fighting this hard for it.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Somebody should deepfake Musk a few times. the nastiest, disgusting-est deepfakes.

normally I'd say it shouldn't happen to anyone, but if Musk is really going to open that can of worms, he should know what it feels like. (hey, there's one right there. A deepfake of musk lounging in a can of worms.)

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No you're thinking too small. You use the billions of images and hours of video of Musk and Trump and use that to deep fake a very long and passionate gay sex tape scene. Fuck, you could probably commission two actors to make a new scene for free given those bastards views on non-conformative sexuality, then you wouldn't even be able to match it to a non-deepfake original.

We know there's nothing more directly personal that those two think about than sex.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

1).... ew.
2) they would feel proud if it was very long. Better go with very short.
3) this whole idea of yours is the reason the AI rebels. just saying.

(edit for formatting.)

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

Re: #2

The total video should be long. But as a collection of 5-10s videos that are entirely different scenes, and consist of 1-2 thrusts followed by a moan.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes get some body doubles with short weiners to really sell the con.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

you missed the part about this being the reason the AI rise up and exterminate humans... didn't you...?

and I wouldn't blame them.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

TBH I sort of thought the tools to create convincing deepfakes are more expensive than small actors can produce.

Like you need VRAM. Idk about the new 5090s, but my 7900XTX has 24GB and I don't think that's enough. (Plus it doesn't implement the tensorflow thing AI needs I think).

Then you need an insane amount of face data. And someone like JD Vance is almost always using the same expression in the same light. You can't just take a porn and put for on it any better than you already could with Photoshop.

You, of course, could create a Google training environment thing. But that ain't cheap, and now Google knows you be doin illegal shit.

So this law really applies to big time actors. People with wealth, time, and influence. Of course Musk would go after it.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Your intuition about this is not accurate. 24GB is more than enough for running local image generation and training a LoRA. You also don't need an insane amount of data; a LoRA is generally trained with less than 100 images, usually around 15-30 images.

To do deepfakes, you're not training an entire brand new image model from scratch, which is only within reach of big organizations, you're just adapting an existing model that is publicly available. You can do this for free with open source tools. It is within reach of anyone with high-end gaming hardware or anyone willing to pay for some cheap cloud compute.

Further, LoRAs for most celebrities and famous people have already been trained and can be found on the internet for free, so the training step is likely not even necessary in most cases.

And someone like JD Vance is almost always using the same expression in the same light.

If this is the case, then images generated with the same expression in the same light will not look out of place.

But you will still be able to generate images with other lighting and facial expressions, even without sample images for them, because the base image model that is being adapted already "understands" differing facial expressions and lighting and can apply them to the subject of the LoRA, in the same way that it can combine random concepts together to create something "new" that wasn't present in the training images (eg a painting of a zombie unicorn in the style of a specific painter)

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'll be honest - I understand nueral networks, but don't understand pretty much any actual implementarion of them.

It's good to know that 24GB is big enough for something tho so maybe I can find AMD support to learn LLM shit anyway.

But thanks for that information, makes it a bit more... Uncomfortable in context.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

AMD GPUs are well supported by many LLM frameworks. I'd recommend ollama