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[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Company: *actively commits fraud in a very blatant way*

The media: "wow, looks like they're being sneaky little rascals, those scamps!"

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Punishment: a fine and more subsidies from the taxpayers to make up for the fine.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A Bluesky thread explains it this way...

It seems Tesla is detecting vehicles that may have problems, and artificially running their odometers faster so the warranty expires before they have to do any service. It’s not subtle, in this lawsuit a customer says his odometer was running more than three times as fast as it should!

https://subium.com/profile/dfeldman.org/post/3lmvrlvkexs2g

Elon also previously fucked around battery performance. There's a link in the thread.

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Edit. Better link.

[–] Cadende@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can you provide the link you mention? can't see any of that without a bsky account

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cadende@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

thanks. I really don't get why bsky does this "the author wants you to be signed in" thing if it's just going to be publicly available via another interface.

[–] Cadende@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My only qualm with this is that it seems like such blatant fraud and so easy to prove that it boggles the mind that it's flown under the radar this long.

This article actually links the lawsuit PDF:

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-faces-class-action-lawsuit-alleging-odometer-manipulation/

https://driveteslacanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/hinton-v-tesla-inc-et-al.pdf

Edit: uhhhhh I'm not sure I buy this. The lawsuit links this patent as evidence of tesla manipulating odometer readings: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8054038B2/en which does not say anything about the odometer, just about battery conditioning in response to predicted mileage for a given trip. Basically they integrated their charging system with the trip planner so that you can do things like plan a long route including charging stops, stop at the charger midway, and then have the car automatically charge to a minimum threshold which is enough battery to make it to the next charge point, with configurable safety margin so you don't roll in on 1% charge, and configurable driving styles so that it doesn't assume you're going to drive like a granny and therefore undershoot the amount of charge needed to go the required number of miles

If this is all they have to go on (well, this and vibes), this lawsuit is gibberish

Edit 2: they're citing reddit posts

I hate tesla as much as the next hexbear but this is not reputable stuff. The journalists that just breathlessly repeated these unsubstantiated claims because it makes a good headline should be ashamed. This took like 20 mins of research to figure out that there's no evidence provided. It could still be true but "random angry day trader sues tesla for denying his warranty claims" shouldn't be news unless there's actually any evidence of wrongdoing.

[–] christian@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

This is a false flag to associate criticism of Tesla with redditors.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

they're getting what they paid for very-smart

[–] Sulv@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago
[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

they hide when you knock on their door