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I've had no ISP-provided Internet access since Feb. 2023 or so and, while it's been a pain at times, I still haven't caved into returning to the evil monopoly that is Spectrum, so far, and probably won't for as long as I can't land a remote job. ArrowDL, while not perfect, has been pretty good at download management for the most part in conjunction with mobile data-hotspotting.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Rationing? In today's day and age? I have unlimited mobile data with Visible for $25/mo. It even has unlimited (slow, 5 Mbps) tethering.

If you use a cheap VPN (I use Mullvad), your video bitrate doesn't get throttled. But the tethered device also needs to be signed in on the VPN because WiFi tethering on the phone doesn't use the phone's VPN, at least on Android.

If you use Android, and you're clever, you can USB tether to a properly-configured Raspberry Pi using EasyTether, and have that give WiFi to all your devices at full speed. I have a 4k Apple TV, and I get 4k video on my $25/mo plan.

For a single device like one PC, all you need is EasyTether on that PC, and then you can USB tether your phone to get unthrottled tethering. EasyTether costs a one-time $10 payment for the phone app. The PC app is free. You need both.

Looks like they have a new $35 plan that doubles the WiFi tethering speed (to a whopping 10 Mbps) and allows 1080p video without needing a VPN. That sorta seems like a sweet spot for price vs. hassle.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice strategies. I used to use EasyTether when it had a free plan. For some time I more recently used TetherFi as it's free and open-source. I generally prefer FOSS nowadays even if it presents a greater hassle.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm all for FOSS. Thanks for letting me know about TetherFi. However, what do you mean about an EasyTether "plan"? Do they no longer charge a flat $10 for the app?

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Oops, maybe I'm thinking of something else or mis-remembered; my bad!

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ironically this is my spectrum bill the past few months. They send a letter saying they are upgrading the speed at no charge. Then a few months later the bill goes up.

Nov 2024. $60

Dec  2024. $70

Jan   2025. $70 

Feb    2025. $73

Mar    2025.  $73

Apr     2o25.   $93!!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Sounds like you were prorated for a plan change on the Apr amount.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Same. I call every year to threaten disconnection so they lower it back down. I can’t wait for goole fiber to be available in my area. Otherwise it’s AT&T.

[–] benni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was a time some years ago where I didn't have wifi for several months. It was sometimes a hassle, sometimes oddly enjoyable and peaceful. Now it's no longer an option for me, but I do sometimes just turn off the router and put devices into airplane mode on the weekends. But it's not the same if you can so easily undo it.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, this is purely a money-saving move. However, yes, had I thought of it, I would also have been turning off the router whenever leaving home.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I switched to a home-oriented 5G system from T-Mobile. The price was decent for my area ($50/month), and most importantly, Spectrum got nothing from me.

Before that, my wife and I would use our phone hotspots for internet (Visible has plans that have unlimited throttled hotspot). The speed was capped at 5Mbit/s, but it was enough for us (and was only $25/month/phone at the time).

I've since moved back to Canada and am using a reseller (Oxio), which has been great so far.

Dang, got my hopes up I could move from my provider for a good price, but alas it's not available in my area yet.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

Dang, 5MB throttled is insanely high! Hmm...

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a year+ with no home Internet. I do not ration my mobile data though. I have unlimited phone data, and I use a hacky program to connect my mobile wifi to my computer.

I didn't need to be online 24/7 so it works fine for me.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is your data truly unlimited with no throttled tier? When I hit US Mobile's tier, anything >720p becomes unusable on a practical level until the next month and I just deal with it. Of course, I'm also paying <$20/month.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I have T-Mobile. They throttle hotspot after a small amount, i think its 5gb. With the app I use it hides the hotspot from the carrier, and even Microsoft (which stops it from auto restarting updates). So to the carrier im just using my unlimited cell data alot.

It's janky though and can cut out at any moment . Sometimes it'll stay connected for an hour, sometimes i have to reconnect every few minutes. But it's worth it, i can dl games and stream movies.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haha, is it TetherFi? TetherFi can do this masking, but it doesn't (or at least didn't) allow connectivity with certain programs that use UDP, like Telegram Desktop, Unigram, and Signal Desktop, which was kind of a pain for me since Signal has no web interface.

My current hotspot-limit bypass method actually just involves an old Android phone that happens to somehow not get picked up by US Mobile's hotspot-checking; I found this out purely by accident, which is why I went with an annual plan with them, haha. By the way, I used to use T-Mobile and it also cut out, but US Mobile is a supercarrier that has SIMs with all satellite networks; my connection is nearly flawless on Dark Star, which is their internal name for the AT&T network. Perhaps you might like to consider that in the future!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use pda dot net. Daisy chaining phones sounds interesting

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, I had tried PDA, too. I can't remember why, but I think because it worked identically to TetherFi, I returned to TF probably because it's open-source. (But with my old phone's hotspot feature getting miscategorized as normal mobile data usage, I just treat a second phone as a hotspot, haha—and not as primary due to its inferior stats as an older, budget phone, ironically enough.)

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Ok cool, I'll check that out too. Thanks!

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We purposely didn't add wifi to our home. It would be an expensive way to give up more of our privacy. It used to bug me, but now I'm used to not having it.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wifi doesn't cost anything monthly. It's a 1 time cost for a device like an access point and it's cheap. Are you confusing wifi with internet?

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I was speaking colloquially, and was unclear. By wifi, I mean "internet access".

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You just have to reply to everyone with this comment don’t you. What’re you hoping to achieve?

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Education. Wifi is NOT internet and can lead to wrong or misleading answers and wastes people's time.

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[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't do that and that seems pretty extreme to me - since most mobile hotspots are going to throttle you after a certain limit (even if they purportedly offer unlimited data). However, I understand the desire.

TV Shows and Movies

If you pay for streaming services, you might want to consider "sailing the high seas" (torrenting). Cancelling streaming services, pirating content, and then using the savings to pay for Spectrum might provide a better overall experience. If it's not cost effective to do that, you should still consider torrenting at a public coffee shop or something to that effect (with a VPN). You can use Jellyfin to host your torrented content.

Gaming

A cheap Raspberry Pi and some peripheral controllers can be used to host a lot of fun retro games which you can play locally at home. I'm assuming modern games are too slow to download over a hotspot.

Pictures

You can host Immich locally and backup photos and videos on your phone over your local intranet. It was super easy for me to setup.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I no longer torrent because I don't want to catch malware or get activity warnings, and I want to try to do things legally. That is where the library, Hoopla Digital, Libby, and Kanopy come in. I've also moved quite a bit to FOSS. The most illegal I'll typically go is /c/FullMoviesOnYouTube haha. Even then, I try to not do that much and just use NewPipe to download other, legal content. What I typically do is download when I'm on Wi-Fi for offline watching, unless I tolerate 480p (but I'm actually not really a movie buff anyway and am more into podcasts, articles, discussions like this, or games).

I'm assuming modern games are too slow to download over a hotspot.

It depends on your throttle speed; typically >1 GB would be painful, but actually playing online is surprisingly doable for efficient games. I even played Hazelight Studios' Split Fiction with a friend through a phone hotspot with no problem even in the throttled speed!

Immich may be new to me, or I forgot about it... Thanks for sharing.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’ve tried the threatening to leave phone calls but it does nothing. I’ve considered doing cellular.

I need my IP for my public sites and gaming. Everything else idc.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, you have to be ready to actually leave and not just bluff. I can tell you straight-up that once I actually left for a month, they started to send multiple come-back letters slashing my price to almost half. The fact that they could have simply been charging me less the entire time with no problem was what pissed me off enough to try to keep going without Wi-Fi and now it's been over 2 years and counting. I've visited a lot of interesting libraries as a direct result!

What games are so specific as to require the same IP? If you can try lasting just a month, they will absolutely offer you discount deal to return.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's awesome! Especially that it has got you to visit libraries more.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I prefer my current ISP because for some reason they haven't changed my IP in almost a year which makes my selfhosting run more smoothly for my public sites. I also need internet for gaming, being able to VPN into my network, and for P2P.

I could live with using my phone for gaming but idk what I would do for my websites, VPN access, and P2P traffic.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

Oh, yeah, running multiple public sites could definitely present a challenge. This may not be doable, then...

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (16 children)

I'm sorry, what?

Are you confusing wifi with internet? Wifi is free. It costs nothing. Internet is a different story. You can have wifi without internet, and you can have internet without wifi. They are not the same thing.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Trees for the forest.

[–] deur 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. They are clearly understanding the difference.

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