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[โ€“] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wanted to visit before the collapse, but it didn't work out for multiple reasons.

Now I'm doubly sad that I didn't go. Because if I would indeed decide to go now, it would be a coin toss if a random typo in some papers would land me in a gulag

Well people don't want to be sold into slavery to El Salvador. Big surprise!

[โ€“] Pharceface@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago

I don't blame anyone, there is no need to personally see the circus that is our country currently. Watch the circus from stands unless you want to be a part of it.

[โ€“] DandomRude@lemmy.world 144 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I won't set foot on US soil again as long as Trump or any other conservative is running this country.

It's not even just about how you get shafted at the border nowadays. I simply don't want to visit a country that is ruled by misanthropic fascists.

And I think that many people will probably feel the same way.

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yep. For the same reason I wouldn't visit Russia, Turkey, and the likes.

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[โ€“] grandpaST@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Those charts are soon going to look a lot worse. I know of many people who had already paid for their vacation before the tariffs were announced, so they went anyway. New bookings for flights from Canada to the U.S. are down over 70%.

[โ€“] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I think so too.
People have always talked about a long weekend in New York or a cruise from Miami.
Now it's just dead. No mention of the US at all, other than the blithering baboon.

Would not want to be a trans atlantic airliner this sunmer

[โ€“] CritFail@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you are trans-atlantic, their DEI policy mistakes this for something LGBT-related and you face automatic detention.

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[โ€“] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i really hope the majority of countries boycott the 2028 games and don't show up in la.

[โ€“] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nazi Germany, China and Russia/Soviet Union set a rather bad precedent for this.

Attendance will double you say?

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[โ€“] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Couldn't agree more, people need to get a lot more overt on this.

[โ€“] aramova@infosec.pub 33 points 2 days ago

Only 20 to 30%?

[โ€“] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 157 points 2 days ago (8 children)

If you enjoy the risk of getting suddenly jailed NK or Iran are way better.

[โ€“] rustyfish@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Iran has better food anyway.

[โ€“] callcc@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (5 children)

People are also extremely welcoming. It's almost too much :)

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[โ€“] sgtlion@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is statistically not true.

Incarceration rate per 100k:

  • US 541
  • Iran 228
[โ€“] Artyom@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

Actually, since ICE isn't sending people to trial, they might be lowering the US statistic lol.

So not only are you safer from getting arrested in Iran, but you're more likely to receive a trial.

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[โ€“] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 108 points 2 days ago (20 children)

My country is vast. My country is huge. My country is beautiful and welcoming too. My country wonโ€™t jail you because of your thoughts. My country is Canada ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ and we have amazing vacationing spots.

[โ€“] LeFantome@programming.dev 30 points 2 days ago

Plus, mention you came instead of going to the US and get treated like royalty.

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[โ€“] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't blame any non-American for staying out of the insanity soup going on here.

Even as a middle age, "white privilege" guy, I'm concerned about traveling outside the U.S. and coming back through immigration. I'm liberal, protester, and strongly anti-Maga on the socials.

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[โ€“] Irelephant@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't want to get detained for a week and sent to el salvador.

[โ€“] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Marketing opportunity - TWO countries for the price of ONE!!!

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[โ€“] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

no shit, dont want to have some border police going through my phone and putting me on detention only to deport me back later

[โ€“] cogman@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

If you're lucky you'll be deported back to your own country.

I don't blame a single person for not wanting to tour the US ATM.

[โ€“] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That whole "throwing people in jail for weeks for thought crime" thing isn't as inviting as Trump thinks, apparently.

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[โ€“] Libb@jlai.lu 76 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All those ungrateful tourists that can't stand the idea of getting mistakenly deported into a High Security Salvadoran prison and then being left to rot there because 'yeah, it's kinda annoying but we can't get him back, you know'.

If I were the all-mighty orange dude, I would put a 146% tax on every single tourist that is refusing to come spend their money in the USA! They're nothing but traitors! They should pay! And maybe I would invade their country, to show the world who's the boss.

[โ€“] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I'm worried of traveling outside of the US because that means I have to come back in through the borders again and be subjected to invasive searches

[โ€“] vrojak@feddit.org 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ez, just skip the part were you travel back.

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[โ€“] RKL@feddit.dk 4 points 1 day ago

Land of the free

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[โ€“] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 64 points 2 days ago

"People not coming to the US on vacation will be labelled as foreign terrorists. They're doing great harm to a tremendous American industry." - Trump, probably

[โ€“] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

Quite literally, as this is going on, Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida is trying to convince everyone in the state that it would be a really good idea to just... massively reduce, if not entirely get rid of property taxes.... and base government revenue off of higher sales taxes... on tourists.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2025/04/01/ron-desantis-sales-property-tax-relief-florida-homeowners-plan/82753401007/

Florida is ... almost certainly the US state with the highest proportion of its economy/tax revenue ... tied to tourism.

I struggle to comprehend this level of stupidity, to the point that I am more inclined to believe DeSantis is just trying to make himself king of a rapidly economically declining and literally sinking fiefdom.

Agriculture and fishing? scared all the immigrants away.

Tourism? tanking.

Property values? also tanking.

Property insurance? fleeing the state, no more mortgages.

Uh uh what do what do?

Tax break!

If Dems get the epithet 'tax and spend', Reps get the epithet 'Slash and burn'.

What a fucking moron.

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I wonder how low it will go. I was tentively planning a holiday trip to New York and another to a conference in Chicago. Both of which are totally off the cards having seen the horror stories of people having their phones searched, refused entry and even being detained for extended periods without justification.

Instead, I think I'm going to finally make a long wished trip to Canada.

I do feel sorry for those working in the US tourism and hospitality industry. It's hardly well paid work and often filled by new migrants and the young / students. It won't start recovering until the craziness of ICE abates but it's the sort of damage that is fast to take place and takes a long time to heal once it's reversed - and a reversal isn't even on the cards for the foreseeable future.

[โ€“] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Disneyland tickets are now affordable?

[โ€“] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Totally understandable, a lot of us who live here wish we didn't right now.

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[โ€“] madjo 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I feel bad for the Olympic organizers. Good luck luring tourists to the Olympics.

[โ€“] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Olympics are probably the worst organization out there.

[โ€“] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck em. The Olympics are now the ultimate corporate show because of American influence. Best to die anyway as they certainly aren't a show of amateur sport any longer and haven't been for decades. It's a major cash grab for a few wealthy sponsors, advertisers and IOC committee members more than a place for "underrepresented" sport to have a competitive international arena.mot to mention at all the pro athletes who ruined the concept by attending.

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[โ€“] taladar@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

European tourism to the USA in free fall

That is what you get when you transport your tourism in a Boeing plane.

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[โ€“] sirico@feddit.uk 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I haven't even seen enough amazing places in my own country let along mainland where there's actual history,good unprocessed food,sun,cycling adventures,cheese rolling down hills... Why would I need to go to Stroad Walmart

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[โ€“] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm an American who has traveled to Europe a few times since Trump. I talked with a few Europeans about our president and all but one were not shy about disliking Trump. The only exception was a polish man who honestly seemed like not the greatest guy. MRA type from my interactions with him. Trump is more unhinged than ever so I wouldn't travel here. I absolutely think about the politics of a place and how it could contribute to things going wrong when I travel abroad, so I get it

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