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A new study says many Americans are okay with political violence. It found 39.8% think it’s fine to wreck Tesla dealerships. And 31.6% say killing Elon Musk could be justified.

The study shows a split by political beliefs. Among those leaning left, 57.6% are okay with smashing Tesla dealerships. Nearly half, 48.6%, think killing Elon Musk makes sense. And 55.2% feel the same about Donald Trump. That’s higher than the overall numbers, where 38.5% justify killing Trump.

Those are rookie numbers. sicko-no We gotta get those up.

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago
[–] Rom@hexbear.net 86 points 1 week ago

The study warns that such high support, especially on the left, might lead to real attacks

timmy-pray

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 74 points 1 week ago
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly surprised it's even that high given how much burgers love to be little pain piggies for their betters.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's probably going to change the more their 401(k)s get fucked with.

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago

no more half measures walter

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago
[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago
[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

I'd like a study of how many pollsters think it's OK to ask about murdering the president.

Graph over time please.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The study shows a split by political beliefs. Among those leaning left, 57.6% are okay with smashing Tesla dealerships. Nearly half, 48.6%, think killing Elon Musk makes sense. And 55.2% feel the same about Donald Trump. That’s higher than the overall numbers, where 38.5% justify killing Trump.

rookie numbers, tbh, but way more than enough to do some good shit if organized. the potential is there.

[–] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago

Violence isn't the answer.

I got it wrong on purpose. joker-dancing

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago

The source of this study is highly suspect.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

Good good good

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

hahaha Elon's turned into cheeto-man flack jacket.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay but if Trump is wearing Elon as a shield and Elon is wearing his child as a shield... how many more layers can we add? Do we count Eric and Don Jr as 2 layers or 1 layer? Is JD's head big enough to count as .5 layers on top of his existing 1 layer?

We need more scientists, dammit.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

The problem with stacking like this is that they become vulnerable to AoE attacks

[–] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

you forgot to account for Jeb!'s guac aura

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So long as we keep up the record of chud dumbasses who are the ones to try. I'm hoping for a GOP dork who just lost their life savings in the market and is a better shot. Would be awesome if there's a right winger implosion as a result.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, leftists need to save their bullets for the real mass movement.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

more like for real targets,

namely bots in counterstrike adventure-time

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago
[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I bet this study is exaggerating and funded by rightwing groups to scaremonger, numbers seem too high to me tbh. I remember one rightwing poll was saying like 26% of Americans were communists lmao

[–] Des@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

which is stupid if they did that because it just makes them seem hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned now

[–] forcefemjdwon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

They are blaming Bluesky, lol

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Concerning, looking into it my-hero

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Dark woke rises

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pollsters are trying to get someone to kill them

[–] spudnik@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

On a real "Oh won't someone rid me of this turbulent priest" tip

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol -3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Normalizing violence as political speech is a slippery slope, and this isn't the fallacy. You thought Jan was an insurrection? There were very few guns, and I believe less than fifty were charged with violence. Version 2 violent boogaloo is going to be crazy.

God I hope I'm wrong.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago

You thought Jan was an insurrection?

not really, no. it was more like a deeply embarrassing block party. honestly i've been at house shows with more guns and i've definitely been to parties with more violence.

anyway violence gets shit done. you can debate the people in power until you die of asphyxiation and nothing will change in the slightest.

What? Am I going to do something about it? Protect Velveeta Voldemort myself? Am I supposed to feel bad if a fascist dies? Ignore the paradox of tolerance and defend their right to blame minorities? Who gives a fuck? If they first come for the fascists then I'm pogged the frick up

I couldn't muster up the strength to feel bad if something happened, much less the @Civility@hexbear.net to not celebrate.

[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Normalizing violence as political speech is a slippery slope,

Taking violence off the table only benefits the ones who already claim a monopoly on violence.

Violence is already completely normalized as political speech, but only in the direction of it being used by the state and against the people. It's totally normalized for fascist ICE agents to brutally abduct people off the street, for cops to murder people (especially people of color) without consequence, or to go into homeless encampments beating and cracking the skulls of the people trying to survive there while torching their meager possessions, for small armies of militarized police to kettle and gas protesters (those people who aren't even using violence themselves but are still doing what they can to oppose its use by the state to conduct genocide), and beating them until they're literally blind. And this isn't even beginning to get into the utter normalization of the unimpeded mass murder of people in the global south to more easily steal their resources.

What is not normalized is specifically the use of violence by regular people aimed at the state. That is the taboo. That is what the pearl-clutching liberals immediately denounce as dangerous to "democracy" (because it is a threat to bourgeois dictatorship). But it's a taboo that has to be broken if there is to ever be any hope of positive change happening within the imperial core. If it's a slippery slope to normalize violence against the state, then let's get to sliding down it! The statistics presented in this article, if they're to be believed, are a hopeful sign.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

its already normalized by the right. better to not just be the punching bags.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Only way out is political violence. But it needs to be organized and disciplined

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Political power yadda yadda you know the line.

This is just cope, the liberal state uses violence all the time, it's just you that isn't targeted.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

We didn't think January 6th was an insurrection. Most of us don't think it was a big deal