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Berlin’s immigration authorities are moving to deport four young foreign residents on allegations related to participation in protests against Israel’s war on Gaza, an unprecedented move that raises serious concerns over civil liberties in Germany.

The deportation orders, issued under German migration law, were made amid political pressure and over internal objections from the head of the state of Berlin’s immigration agency.

The internal strife arose because three of those targeted for deportation are citizens of European Union member states who normally enjoy freedom of movement between E.U. countries. None of the four has been convicted of any crimes.

“What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago

Germany, no....

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

Albert Einstein is 100% correct.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Israel applying pressure on Germany.

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Israel the kings of the world?

Nah if the USA gets blamed (deserved) Germany gets fucking blamed (also deserved as the original fucking Nazis they shouldn’t have been forgiven, either).

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

International law: Conducting and Support of Genocide is Illegal.

U.S./Germany law: Protesting Genocide is Illegal.

[–] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

The challenge lies in the fact that criticism of Israel is often intertwined with accusations of anti-Semitism. Germany finds itself in a delicate position: on one hand, it has pledged unwavering support to the state of Israel; on the other hand, it must uphold the right to dissent and allow protests against Israeli policies.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not delicate at all.

If you don't stick to your values when they're being tested, they're not values: they're hobbies.

—Jon Stewart

[–] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf -1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I don't understand how the quote applies to the situation described. Germany has a deep responsibility to support Israel because of its history with the Holocaust. However, it also believes in free speech and the right to protest. The challenge is balancing these two—supporting Israel while allowing criticism of its policies without crossing into anti-Semitism.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

No, Germany feels a responsibility to help Jews as reparations for the holocaust. Not a blank check to the rightwing Israeli government or giving them a pass when they violate international law. And certainly not violating Germany’s free speech laws by arresting nonviolent protestors condemning a foreign government for their war crimes. There’s no challenge here unless you think every protestor is an anti-Semite.

[–] nomoregerm@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 hours ago

Fuck that. The germans have funded a genocide and they should pay the price

[–] nomoregerm@lemmy.cafe 3 points 7 hours ago

You say that as if they were equals. The antisemitism is supporting Israel. They are the rich Jews who paid the Nazis for the right to bail like coward, which at least partly funded the Holocaust. Then, Germany left the Jews without citizenship until 1948. They basically solved the JewiSh QueStiOn by deporting them where they come from.

Maybe Germany's commitment should go toward preventing mass killing more than protecting a specific ethnic group.

And and don't get me started on how much money the Germans have made sending weapons for the genocide. This is just a subsidy to their weapon industry at this point

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Choosing between an incredibly bad lie to commit genocide and not committing genocide must be a hard choice for Germany, knowing their history and regret for their previous genocide

No wait, Germany is supporting genocide again.

"Germany has pledged unwavering support to a genocidal colonial apartheid" really is not the own Germans think it is.

[–] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The world is far too nuanced to be categorized as merely good or evil, as you suggest. Following the atrocities of the Holocaust during World War II, Germany has assumed a profound moral and political obligation to safeguard and support the state of Israel, a commitment that remains a cornerstone of its foreign policy.

Yes, Germany has expressed strong support for Israel during the ongoing conflict, primarily through diplomatic efforts and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Nuance for genocide what is next nuance for Adolf Hitler? "Well he did kill all those Jews but you have to remember he was denied his art education!"

Here is a good rule to live by:

Genocide bad.

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Why should anyone give a fuck about that?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago

If those EU citizens take it to EU court they’d probably win very easily. Can’t just take away freedom of movement, one of the tenets of the Union, without any due process. Seriously fuck the German politicians who pressured for this. Guess fascism is making a return, didn’t even need the AfD for that.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago
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