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This might be relevant to those who wish / have to use Windows 11:

This week, Microsoft made it very clear that it wants to block the popular BYPASSNRO workaround, used to skip the internet and Microsoft Account requirement checks during the Windows 11 installation OOBE (initial setup), although thankfully, the script can still be created using Registry edits.

A 7 step guide.

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[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

fun fact Rufus already has all of this automated and even has steps to have the local account of your choice already as part of the image

[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People who can't or don't want to use Linux should just use Windows LTSC or IOT. It's honestly the next best thing. I just set it up for my brother. When you open up the start menu on the fresh install and there is nothing there out of the box, it's such a nice feeling. No ads, no games, no onedrive, nothing. The only thing LTSC has is Microsoft Edge but even that one you can uninstall.

Licenses are expensive, but you can easily activate it with mas.

[–] kalpol@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How expensive is expensive? And you usually can't just buy a single license, right? You have to have an enterprise agreement and buy some minimum number.

[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Enterprise is a bit funny with how it works, there is a 5 license minimum, but they don't all need to be Enterprise. You can get 1 LTSC upgrade license (+-$300), then on top of that get 4 of the one user Microsoft Identity Manager CALs to become compliant (4x +-$10). This also still requires you to have a Professional (not Home) license already as it is an upgrade.

Microsoft is not selling the licences to individuals, you need to buy it as a business, or buy it somewhere else. You can try this. https://www.cdw.com/search/?key=ltsc Idk if or how it works. I just install iso, and use mas command, and it is activated. I don't care that I "stole" from microsoft.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

People say Stockholm syndrome is fake, but when I see Windows users, I know it's real. They have been suffering for years and never thought once about alternatives like Ubuntu.

"Oh Linux is too complicated, I can't do that." Yeah, you can't click on Firefox to open Firefox, or LibreOffice to write a document. That's too hard.

To rant a bit, the last time I helped my parents, I removed every icon from their desktop and installed Firefox with uBlock Origin. Only Firefox on the desktop, it was idiot proof. When I came back, Firefox had disappeared and on the desktop I saw: Edge, 2 copies of Chrome with the most scummy plugins ever, and one Chrome fork that came from an adware that they purposefully installed (WTF). I told them that they had a virus, and that from now on I wouldn't help them anymore. They like to suffer, I let them.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can relate. It is like those tool bars that were installed automatically if you weren't attentive while installing software when Windows XP still was around.

They like to suffer, I let them.

Me too. I always suggest to them to install UBlock origin (or any ad blocker compatible to their browser), along with add ons that get rid of cookie consent banners. If they follow my advice, I will invest my time into helping them to make their OS a little bit less annoying (e.g. switching off telemetry data and uninstalling Copilot). If they can't be bothered with at least installing an ad blocker, I will not waste my time on them. They clearly want to suffer.

Edit: The screenshot displays a Windows Vista UI. These Toolbars must have been aorund also while Windows Vista was around. I didn't know that, because Vista made me settle into the other walled garden.

[–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My parents are almost completely technological-illiterate (i.e. due to old age my father doesn't even have a cellphone nor knows how to use it, and my mother barely can know how to do calls in her phone - both of them don't know how to use a computer) but they know they don't know about stuff - so hearing stories like that kind of make me be thankful they're like that and that they will hear me when needing some advice or need to do something involving something tech-y

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Looks better than my solution which was to join the machine to a domain then add a local account after. I always add a local account of my machines then add them to a domain. Simple fact is they want to trap people in their walled garden and it isn't going that well for them.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

I'm sure it's going really well because the vast majority probably just give in.

[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't join a domain with home, and win 11pro has You create a local account first before joining domain.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I know. All machines I purchase are pro machines. The only home machine a laptop we installed linux on it and just kept going.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

(Just checking if this federates. Edit: it did immediately.)

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 6 points 3 days ago
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Question: what is the downside of making a throwaway ms account upon install and never touching that account again?

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Meta : I'd be curious to know the ratio of people downvoting the "Linux!" suggestion who actually do so from Windows.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, it's only gonna be a matter of time before they remove this. I can almost guarantee that.

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