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I really want to like lemmy, but it's difficult. I'm new to all this fediverse thingy, and I might just have old habits and perceptions how things should work but... I keep seeing the same posts more than once, iOS experience is not that good really, sometimes I see dead posts from 2 years ago for some reason, despite having subscribed to like 30 communities there aren't that many new posts to read.

Part of it probably that subreddits had millions of people so a lot of posts every minute, but it still feels underwhelming.

It's not as doomscrolly. Maybe I should find something else to waste my time on haha

What is your experience with lemmy? Maybe I just do things wrong. Let me know

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[–] milkytoast@beehaw.org 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i mean so far, I'm enjoying it. sure, the community isn't as large, but that's mostly a good thing. on reddit, if i made a post, it would be like a 25% chance to get hundreds of comments, and a 75% chance to get none. here, I've gotten a few, high quality responses on every question post I've made. i do miss the "auto hide read posts" feature, but maybe that'll get added some day

[–] adj16@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You can hide read posts here! In the web app settings for your profile:

[–] adriator@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is there a way to stop the endless loading of posts on the website? Because every time I try to click a post, it moves down because a new post loaded, and this happens every ten seconds, constantly.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's a bug that wasnt an issue when the community was smaller. Last I heard they will replace it with a refresh icon that pops up at the top when new posts are available.

[–] Quartz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh thank God is a bug, I really thought it was a feature of the site.

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Thank jeebus. I was getting all fussy thinking it was a me/my phone/my browser problem.

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It’s amazing what kinda bugs can be exposed in your system when your user base expands by orders of magnitude overnight

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[–] adj16@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I’ve heard that one is just a bug. Hopefully they’re working on it. Mlem (the iOS app) seems to have it handled, but it does crash a lot, and it’s frustrating to lose your scroll progress. I think we just have to wait it out in these early days 😵‍💫

[–] atp2112@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also don't seem to have that problem with Jerboa.

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[–] Illegal_Seafood@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is incredibly helpful! Thank you so much!

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[–] psilves1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
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[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fediverse currently reminds me of Reddit from 10 years ago in frequency of content. There is something nice about not being in the rat race, less toxicity.

[–] milkytoast@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

yeah it's nice knowing that someone is gonna see my comment instead of it getting lost amongst hundreds. feels a lot more like a community that way

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[–] orbit@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago (17 children)

The reality is that there was/is no reddit alternative and right now we're all in this transitory phase where we're all looking for a new home. We'll all just have to wait for the dust to settle. Lemmy isn't perfect but is improving and additionally other alternatives like kbin and tildes are in the works.

To your larger point, much of what you're feeling is the abrupt break in habits. I've been using the gap to develop more positives ones, and it's been great.

[–] Oslypsis@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A thought came to my mind when reading your comment.

Instead of finding a new home, let's make lemmy our new home. Let's try to populate lemmy more, get its activity up, and post more than we would've on reddit (since we have less users, we would need more posts per user), so it can stand a chance at being a reddit competitor.

[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, make homes! we need so much more hardware, while personal instances may not be a good idea, we are so short on compute that if you are inclined run your own instance, bring your friends!

The experience on smaller faster instances is already comparable, the content flow, really not bad either though it takes about an hour of finding and subbing to the communities you want and a day for your instance to really start grabbing the content for you.

[–] rskn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the sentiment I've been rolling with. I normally don't post often, but since the move I've created an instance and posted more than ever.

We have to make what we want. once we have enough content for people to be interested, the users and community will come.

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[–] araquen@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago

I would say to breathe deep and take your time. Lemmy is not a clone of Reddit, and it shouldn’t be viewed as, say you would compare functionality between 2 third-party Reddit apps.

Think of it as coming in to a new MMO after having played the old one for many years. Some things will be familiar, and some things will be different. Some mechanics may feel like a “step backwards” while others are cool additions.

Lemmy isn’t new, but it’s getting fresh eyes on its user experience and that is a good thing. And unlike Reddit, each community/server/whathaveyou can be far more responsive to their users feedback. That said, not every response will be a “yes” but you don’t have requests filtering through various levels of technological red tape, which I understand has been a challenge for the Reddit moderators, who still do not have the necessary tools to effectively moderate their subreddits.

When I first joined Beehaw, and saw, originally, a “lack” of diverse subreddits (including my mainstays) I was a bit disappointed, but then I thought to myself: “damn the torpedoes, I’m just gonna wing it” and subscribed to a bunch of communities that looked promising.

I’ve been on Lemmy since the disastrous AMA and have not looked back. I’ve even engaged more in these last 5 days on Lemmy/Beehaw than in the last year on Reddit. And while I still miss my 250+ subreddits (including r/superbowl and the subreddits I collected as part of a Reddit gestalt (r/inthesoulstone, the subreddit for Purple button pushers, r/buddhistasfuck (created as a lark, someone posted it wouldn’t last a day and I stayed to prove them wrong, and while it was a quiet subreddit, every once in a while someone would post something they thought was “extremely” buddhist)) the Lemmy communities have provided more meaningful interactions. Plus, Lemmy will create its own gestalts, and I’ll have new ways to experience the never-ending stream of random data tidbits I have grown to crave.

[–] turbulentMagma@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You make it sound like not doomscrolly is a bad thing

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Honestly man, as much as I 100% agree on the UI difficulties, it's like a breath of fresh air. There's good music posted, people posted books and I looked and really wanted to read them. It's more human. There's this tiny little handful of content here, but it's not all same-y and in-joke-y and weird.

I'm not trying to hate on reddit, I still go to reddit for news because of more or less what you're talking about (the weird sorting in the newsfeed here and the lack of certain content). But what I like about here is that there are nerdy people, there's real content, there's not this weird hivemind and endless dopamine content. The great stuff about reddit was always the in-depth storytelling and unique content, to me, not just the gratification aspect of everything working right and new content popping up. I'm happy with Lemmy despite the hiccups because it seems like it's getting back to that.

[–] root@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Feels like an older reddit, which I enjoy(ed). I also appreciate the genuine interactions and that upvotes are a 1:1 with users. No smoke and mirrors.

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[–] pistachio@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The default sorting is by "active" which to me doesn't show a lot of new content (from the last hours). Switching to hot improves the experience a lot.

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[–] JerkyIsSuperior@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

The community and the app is still relatively new. To be honest, I prefer smaller communities where I can leave for a few hours without half the posts sliding to page 5 and beyond. Instead of uncritically consuming digital content, try to contribute to smaller communities, post a couple of cool links, or even (Gasp! Horror!) do something else for a while.

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[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There are definitely a few bugs or perhaps performance issues that are annoying, but the experience seems already 1000 times better than just 2 days ago. I have also checked on lemmy every few months for about 2 years now, it's day and night. It already feels kinda like 2012 reddit to me, and that's a good thing in my view.

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[–] relyn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

You aren't doing anything wrong! This site/app (lemmy) and the concept (fediverse) are still super early days so there are going to be many problems. The site has some layout issues and there isn't nearly as much content as Reddit but that's just because it is new.

The most important bit, to me at least, is that the fundamental idea of the fediverse is good. We have had to many instances where social sites like Reddit, Facebook and Twitter can just decide what people can and can't say, they can remove our content and they can monetize it all without doing any real work of their own as far as creating content. The idea of the fediverse ensures that no one server, person or company has all the content and thus the control.

I really hope people stick with something fediverse whether it be lemmy, kbin or any of the other projects out there. Post content there, cross post it from Reddit if you really have to post to Reddit too for whatever reason. Please don't give these companies all the control anymore.

[–] Dewie99@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I had the same problem of seeing posts more than once or consistently when viewing the site.

I had to dig under the Menu, click onto my profile name, select Settings, and make some changes.

Under that page I changed “Type” to “Subscribed” (Default was Local) and “Sort Type” to “Top Day” rather than “Hot”. Then make sure to click “Save”

This seems to have improved for me a bit.

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[–] CleanDefinition@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The biggest problem I see is fragmentation, people are creating the same community in different instaces, /c/Piracy for example. Lemmy should prevent this, community names should be unique, it should have an index of all the Lemmy Fediverse where instances can lookup if a community exists instead of waiting for a user to import that community to his instance. Something similar to what BTC does with the decentralized ledger.

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[–] Awoo@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

One of your issues is probably sorting by Active instead of sorting by Hot. A major difference in the experience on Lemmy is the "Active" sort method being the default.

[–] statlerwaldorf@vlemmy.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember HATING Reddit after the great Digg migration. The information was presented in a different way and the discussions seemed to be the focus rather than the linked content. It took a while to get used to it and I'm feeling a bit of the same here. There are a ton of similarities that are already here, so it's not as jarring and things are improving every day.

I feel like I'm interacting more here than I did on Reddit for a long time. By the time anything showed up on my feed over there, it was 1 day old, had 5000 comments, and had devolved into memes.

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[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone know why so many subs I've subscribed to say pending? Does a mod need to approve it?

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[–] dystop@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I know the feeling, but the way I'm dealing with it is twofold.

  1. Create content. If the commuity you like has few posts, then start something. If the community doesn't exist, create it. I'm doing my part by creating maliciouscompliance (quick shoutout: /c/maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world , https://lemmy.world/c/maliciouscompliance , !maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world ).

  2. Recognise that I used to spend too much time on Reddit and I should spend less time on social media in general. "Not as doomscrolly" is a feature for me, although I recognise this isn't for everyone.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm still feeling my way around and have subbed to a community or two here and there, but (using Jerboa on Android) so far it's actually not that different from using rif (for me, anyway.)

The only real issue that I've encountered so far is I kept getting timeout errors whenever I tried to comment (though the comments seem to have posted anyway) or when I clicked into a comment thread, but those seem to have subsided for the most part...

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I find it exciting. Very reminiscent of the Digg exodus. Sure, it can be a little frustrating at times. But reddit was going downhill for me long before the API stupidity. Lemmy feels like returning home in a way.

[–] TheWaulicus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Oh my, that has just been there the whole time and I repeatedly glossed over it!

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Give it some time, you'll start to see more and a bigger variety of posts. Additionally, change your sort of posts once in awhile, and enable the "all" selection and you'll see a bigger variety of posts

[–] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm warming up to it. Actually, I was never not warm to it, but the learning curve is real. I am on the website right now because the iOS app MLem, which is in beta, doesn't (as far as I can tell) have a way to search for other communities. But I want to shout that creator out, because I think it's difficult, thankless work, and I really appreciate their effort. The fact there is an app for iOS at all is a wonderful start. Who knows how solid it will be a year from now?

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

In my opinion, were in the 'keep swimming' fishing boat scene from Nemo.

Reddit wants to stay the 'homepage of the internet' but also force everyone to go through their tools for ad bucks.

If we succeed, we can bust our communities out of the centralized net and reform on the other side.

We fail by not working together here today in this moment, we have to use this event to convince the average person to switch now, we might not get another opportunity like this.

[–] motcho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I mean having 1 less thing to doomscroll on is good innit

[–] mvu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I'm actually enjoying the lack of doomscroll.

Since Lemmy isn't built to trap you for hours on end to get that sweet ad revenue, you can just run out of new stuff to see and then stop lemmying. Bust open the eReader or get to that backlog of bookmarked articles.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is still very early in it's development and there's only two full time working on it afaik.

[–] dracul104@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I'm spending less time staring at my phone and more time picking up a book or something, all the better for me. I've found myself engaging more and doomscrolling less though, so the time feels more well spent even though I'm spending less time then I would have on reddit.

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