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Five Republican Minnesota state senators plan to introduce a bill classifying "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS) as a mental illness, defining it as "acute paranoia" about Trump's presidency.

The bill argues TDS causes hysteria, verbal hostility, and aggression toward Trump supporters.

Critics argue this represents a dangerous politicization of mental health diagnoses that could suppress political expression.

The bill will be read Monday before the Minnesota Senate Health and Human Services Committee, where Democrats hold a narrow majority.

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[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's the other way around.

The mental illness is not "paranoia about Trump's doings", paranoia about Trump is normal when you're a decent human being who is thinking clearly and fact-based, because then you should absolutely be paranoid about an unhinged, mentally unstable, dangerous fascist taking power in the US. If that doesn't bother you, I'm sorry, but you're probably simply uneducated. See old Nazi Germany for "prior art" on this one.

What could be considered a "mental illness" is what causes people to believe or support Trump, or the current Republicans, or the MAGA movement, or the current right-wing extremism in general. This is likely an issue of either low education, low intelligence or naive belief in various forms of internet propaganda. Or multiple of those issues combined. So it's not really "illness" but rather a misinformed and/or radicalized person. Similar to what cultists become in real cults. Fascism is very cult-like in general. There's usually a supreme leader and a doctrine (usually based on falsehoods) to live by, and everyone who doesn't do that is considered an "enemy" or at least inferior. What you read on the internet and especially social media or "alternative news sites" is already often weaponized and might be able to radicalize you or lead you away from the fact-based truth. There's TONS of disinformation, sometimes harmless, sometimes funny, but sometimes not. Sometimes it's dangerous, especially if you're not able to spot what's likely true or not. If you aren't able to filter out disinformation, propaganda, lies, half-truths, weird memes, i.e. if you are unable to stick to reputable sources, peer-reviewed science, and so on, then you WILL fall for at least some amounts of misinformation and you MIGHT even become part of a cult (e.g. MAGA movement, conspiracy believers, anti-vaxxers, QAnon, radical right-wing extremism, ...). And again, it's all weaponized and that is useful for various involved parties for various reasons. For example, Putin wants misinformation on social media because with it he can destabilize Western democracies, because common citizens fall for this stuff and lose faith in their own governments. The end result helps Russia, because Western democracies will then do less and be less united against Russian attacks. Billionaires like Musk or Zuckerberg want misinformation on social media because with it they can better control the narrative and extract more money from the users because polarizing and extreme content gives them more interactions and thus money. Billionaires also want less governmental regulation, which is why Musk already demolished several regulating bodies in the US. Autocratic fascists like Trump also want misinformation on social media because with it they can control the narrative better. What these involved parties all don't want is the actual truth, so they are usually anti-science, anti-education, anti independent journalism, and so on. It's better for them if the common people are uneducated and uninformed, and follow the newly created doctrine. It's easy to tell that they want to create their own fake version of the truth, and control the narrative in that way.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Projection. Again.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Gaslighting 101: blame your victim(s)

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 57 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They haven't seen deranged yet. And thats a lot knowing their own actions. Wait until their wrecking ball of an economic plan makes food impossible to buy. Then you'll see deranged.

[–] paul@lemmy.esquiretheduke.nohost.me 62 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Derangement was attacking the Capitol on Jan 6th. This is an excuse to jail anyone who dares disagree.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is that doesnt matter. These actions will destroy our country before he is out of office. You'll be seeing starving children in the streets and much worse.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

...before he is out of office.

That's just a truism for anything, no matter how long it takes, since he doesn't intend to leave. Better to say "before the end of his term" or "within a few years" if your estimate is specifically that soon.

Democrats’ messaging about January 6th is insane.

It is not morally wrong to do a Jan 6.

It is morally wrong to to do a Jan 6 for the reasons it was done.

Way to go- you’ve communicated to your base in advance that their only hope is to do something that’s absolutely reprehensible.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 18 hours ago

I don't think that will happen, just look how well China, Russia and North Korea have their population under control. The same will happen in the USA.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

In first reading the title I was wondering if the bill was talking about people blindly following Trump.

[–] breen@lemmy.ca 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Same - instead sounds like they want to classify dissenters as mentally unwell so they can be locked-away or deported like the rest.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 11 points 17 hours ago

Not just locked away, they want to torture them in mental institutions and fry their brains with psychiatric meds. Just like in Morther Russia.

Don't assume this is a joke.

They are constantly probing, and will keep trying to expand their power until they are stopped.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago

Obviously, this horrendous and fascist (par for the course). I think there is also a subtle insidious layer to this that would imply stripping all dissidents of their gun rights, therein stifling rebellion.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 15 points 17 hours ago

How Russian of them.

[–] afc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Would it be so hard to put Minnesota in the title? (Not op, the publisher) (But also op)

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago

This just in: 99% of the world’s population suffers from Trump derangement syndrome.

The other 1% has actual certifiable psychological issues.

[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

And I'll fucking wear that diagnosis with pride. Fuck them all, he's factually terrible.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Being a Trump supporter is a mental illness

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

That's an insult to mental illness.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago

Dictators outlaw dissent.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Is this some kind of stunt? Like they know it's not going anywhere but they can read their witty bill into the record for giggles. What an embarrassment. Who votes for these toddlers?

[–] oxysis@lemm.ee 11 points 17 hours ago

It’s to begin normalizing the idea of locking up dissenters…

[–] squidman@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

One step away from Thoughtcrime.

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 14 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Won't tds being a diagnosable mental health condition make those exhibiting it a protected class?

[–] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 21 points 19 hours ago

No, that's not what they want, this is more like the Nazis putting the stars on people in camps to designate visually who to attack first.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, if the rule of law meant anything. It doesn't anymore.

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 20 hours ago

Just out of curiosity, do you want to hold the trials after the shit burns down in Nuremberg like the last ones, or do you want to do that somewhere in the US?

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago

Anyone mind linking thr actual bill? Didn’t find it in the article

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