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Red Bull - European but Far right
Buy European but ... Also with ethical considerations.
Red Bull might sound cool, but they have their own TV station in Austria. (servus TV) And that station js beyond far right. Spreading disinformation, and Russian propaganda, Corona Bullshi, Ivermectint, cleaning stuff with chlorid, climate change deniers, ... If there is a conspiracy they support it ...
(And it's also not very healthy,....)
after having lived in Austria..I'm not buying anything from that racist nazi country.
idk about r/buyFromEU but r/europe on reddit is pretty right-wing
If Germany's CDU had a Reddit wing, r/Europe would be it lmao
I think the buy EU thing (and for that matter, all this trade war bullshit) is one of those things that claims to be apolitical but is inherently nationalistic and so massively popular with/supported by/in support of the authoritarian right.
One of those salt of saturn political things that lets people pretend they aren't right-wing.
we shouldn't dismiss the movement as a whole just because some rightwingers are a part of it, but our choices with regard to consumption should be more nuanced than America bad, Europe good.
True. If the movement was called boycott facists, or even buy local I don't think there would be the same problem.
You can't take things out of context. There's currently a far right US presidents creating an economical war with the historical allies and economical partners of his country. The point of boycotting is to try to prove him wrong about thinking that he can impose his wishes by force, the target is him and his government, not the US people in general. There's also the hope that weakening him could allow a political change next term, which would make things better for our American friends. Of course it is political, but it's against Trump, not the people.
Right-wing is when not wanting to buy from fascists
Exactly what I am talking about. Plenty of facists in the EU, plenty of non-facists outside the EU. Make your decision based on the politics of the people you are buying from, not what flag they wrap around themselves.
The point is that fascism is not unique to the US, i.e. not everyone from the US is fascist and the EU also has fascists. To imply that universally EU=good and US=bad is nationalistic. Just be aware thay this sentiment may also attract people who join out of a sense of national pride rather than anti-fascism.
The US is lead by a fascist and a fascist party. Most of the EU isn't. I also don't buy stuff from Italy for the same reason.
So you don’t buy anything from Italy?
Yes
I think people don't realize Red Bull is not a beverage company, they're a marketing company. Just like Google is an ad company
Anyway, the main message of this post is actually really important. Buying European is not what you have to aim for. We have to start making the switch to sustainable consumption. For softwares, plenty of open-source alternatives exist that are way better than European ones. The US do not have the monopoly on fascist capitalism
Luckily there are local alternatives that come from companies that haven't at least been caught doing heinous shit (and are small enough that maybe they aren't doing anything heinous), but I fucking hate that both Monster and Red Bull are out. Monster Aussie Lemonade is my favourite energy drink I've tasted in a long long time and red bull is just a reliable choice that tastes good cold and is available everywhere.
They're likely not going to be available in Estonia, but does anyone wanna recommend anything European-made that's pretty sour like Aussie Lemonade? I might do an European road trip later this year and would like to test different energy drinks. Yes I have an addiction. No, I don't want help.
Icl, ik this is slightly irrelevant to the post but even though I never really liked Red Bull (mostly cuz of their highly processed and unnatural taste) I've always rated and supported their stunts and funding of athletes, which I think regardless of their political views should be acknowledged and supported.
I’m in the supermarket right this moment and I got a “No Limit”. The website seems to suggest it’s either French or Swiss, I have no clear idea of their politics though.
I hade no idea about this! I buy these drinks occasionally, when I need a quick energy boost. I don't really like them though. In the future, I will be buying Nocco instead.
Nothing in Redbull is good for you, it's full of sugar, and it comes in a can. Cans are lined with plastic that bleed estrogenic chemicals into the beverage. I've cut canned drinks out of my life entirely.
Studies show that there are around 10-20 microplastic particles per liter in canned beverages. Carbonated sodas contain more (6-82), possibly due to the carbonation breaking down the lining in the can.
For comparison:
So if you're going to avoid anything, avoid.... tea bags, of all things.
Cans are lined with plastic that bleed estrogenic chemicals into the beverage
I did some quick looking through ~~google~~ Ecosia and I found some stuff that (seemingly? I'm not an expert) confirms this. It made sweeping statements about pretty much all plastic, though. Do you still drink stuff from plastic bottles?
This sounds like a snide comment but it's not, I'm interested because I currently still drink both from cans and plastic bottles!
I don't drink from plastic bottles for the same reason.
If you're going to drink from a plastic bottle anyway I don't think the plastic lining on a can is going to be worse. Interesting it's there though, only learned about it a couple years ago.
I mean, that's just plastic in general, it's also why you shouldn't reheat food in plastic containers because it can leach chemicals out of it.
Completely baseless assumption, but if there's enough chemicals leaching from the containers into your food, you'd be able to taste it and wouldn't be ingesting it to begin with.
There's plenty of chemicals that either don't have a taste, or are harmful at concentrations we aren't able to detect by taste. I'm not saying they're in plastic necessarily, but they definitely exist.