Not tobrain on the parade, but the source seems to be an online reader survey from t-online.be. That means the scientific value of this is pretty low. For decent surveys, you need a random sample. In this case, you need to be a visitor of t-online, and you decide for yourself that you want to participate. That's already enough to skew results. Add to that that there's a lot of online activism against Tesla (for obvious reasons), so the poll could have been partly hijacked. Such a low number of people who don't care or haven't heard about Tesla going rogue is not realistic anyway. There's a lot of people who are weird, contrarian or simply avoid all news.
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Also surveys generally are a bad way to do science anyway unless it's psychology, sociology or smt. It really triggers me when people take survey results seriously without critical thought.
Well they are an excellent tool to gauge public opinion. But you need a random sample. That's always been tough, but it's getting harder and harder to do so.
Europe dislike Teslas now, Asia, Africa and Latin America have BYDs, Canada and Australia are in a trade war with the US... idk why TSLA isn't tanking more
We have BYD in Europe too. See them all the time.
Tesla already was somewhat ridiculed for trying to be above the law. In Germany they tried to circumvent environmental protections and here in Sweden the unions have been fighting them because they’re trying to circumvent our labour market. There’s been strikes for well over a year now.
Yeah I’ve seen one or two byd’s around in London lately. Also anecdotally there are now a few byd hybrid London busses.
Oh right. My hometown switched to BYD electric busses back in 2019. They've since been superseded by Mercedes electric buses though. The BYD ones were kind of rubbish, at least back then.
Yeah that’s fair - in London there are still a lot of the horrible old Volvo diesel / electric hybrids that badly need replacing imo. Not sure how the byd ones held up, they were certainly nicer when new tho
When completely new there were problems with the door firmware. I commuted via bus at the time and often got late because the bloody doors would crash. It got ironed out though, and the buses were really nice at that point. After a couple of years though, they'd start wailing like banshees, it was pretty horrible. I'm thinking that's why they replaced them, but I honestly don't know.
All that said, they were better than the diesel buses they replaced. Nicer, more spacious, less noisy.
Retail investors and dumb spectators.
A lot of Telsa’s stock is governed by the same valuation and gambling logic that applies to crypto and meme stocks.
But that shit has limits.
i mean it always looked overvalued to me
It's always been immensely overvalued
The stock price has never been realistic..
It's long been past any kind of real valuation. I think that's why it's basically impervious to bad news. Everyone's bought in too deep.
ticking bomb then
Investor hype on AI and androids?
A lot of it is institutional investors and funds that move very slowly. If it drops out of the s and p things will start getting fun.
They stay in the green by selling carbon credits.
They earn carbon credits by selling cars, though. The collapse of the car selling revenue stream also threatens their credit selling revenue stream.
Not sure how much their non-automotive market is, but they do have other product lines, like solar, battery backup, etc.
Their battery systems run the gamut from Powerwalls for the home to huge utility-grade systems that power companies around the world purchase.
I have a neighbor that has solar panels & a powerwall. He showed me how over the summer excess power is sold back to the power utilities as part of a distributed virtual power plant that consists of over 1200 powerwall owners around the region.
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Commercial in White House is not for nothing, MAGA loves TESLA now. I started to see more in the nearby town.
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The 6% are the shit AfD supporters.
who are poor af and couldn't even afford one anyway lmao
That’s not true. Most AfD voters have a decent enough income, they make more than the average German. Education is average as well.
https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2017-03/iw-studie-afd-waehler-gehalt-bundesdurchschnitt
Lots of small businesses owners and hard working contractors vote AfD. The OG nazis were also mainly supported by petit bourgeoisie. Fascism can be described as extremism of the center in a way.
Very interesting (and surprising) - thanks for sharing!
Its official. Musk is even worse than Hitler, then.
Current owner of a Tesla in Germany. Won't buy again. In the recent owner survey I told them as much, and why.
Good. Got any sweet stickers?
I got one last week "I bought this before Elon went crazy", the car is currently to dirty to put it on
I like these ones below. While I consider Star Trek the utopian ideal, and as a Canadian could use some Picard daddy energy in my life right now, this whole shitstorm feels more like a resistance, so went with Star Wars.
I really don’t dig the “I bought this before…” versions because they’re face saving, wordy, and somewhat defensive.
To paraphrase Office Space, “Why should I apologize, he’s the one who sucks!”
Thank you my German people.
Still in the top ten for February, so, eh.
Teslas used to account for more than half of all electric cars sold in many countries. The fact that fell to 3% in Germany is a pretty significant drop. Here's hoping we get to 0% in 2026.
I think it's a beautiful irony that Musk sells luxury electric cars but has gone all in on far-right ideology where the supporters are big fans of non-luxury fossil fuel cars. There is a very real possibility the company could be bankrupted in these 4 years as long as we all hold a grudge and refuse to forgive him.
Are these sales or ownership stats?
If it's the latter, that's hardly surprising
These are stats for Neuzulassungen, meaning cars that get a license plate for the first time. So it’s a proxy for sales.
Oh ok, that's disappointing then :/
Do you have data for Jan 2025 and/or Feb 2024?
Germany leading the way.
Tesla is the foundation of ENazis wealth. It must be destroyed to literally save the world.
That's my argument. People with Tesla cars are all carrying on about separating the product from the CEO and I'm like... your money is the difference between him being a relatively harmless crazy person ranting in a public park somewhere, and being the president of the US whose actions are causing real world hardship to a heap of people.
And the other 6% deserve a good beating
Why hasn't the country banned them?
Jokes on them the US is going to make that illegal!
Spoiler
/s
Honestly... the irs thinks it has juristriction overseas. You still "have" to pay tax to the irs (as an american citizen) if you're a citizen in another country and work in that country full time.
my point: the /s might actually not be there for a long time
Bold of you to think the IRS will still be around in a couple years.
of course it will be. who else can steal better from the average american than the irs?
I sold my (single share of) TSLA stock quite a while on principle. I didn't realize at the time that it would also be a great financial move.
You could be a troll and replace it with a single share of TSLQ lmao.
Apple pie only has like an 80% approval rating, so he’s more hated than Apple pie is loved by a lot
lol, I love apple pie. I would never let anything happen to any Apple pie. That been said, fuck Elon.
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