this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
64 points (97.1% liked)

Europe

4644 readers
1262 users here now

News and information from Europe 🇪🇺

(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)

Rules (2024-08-30)

  1. This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
  2. No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
  3. Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
  4. No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism.
  5. Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
  6. If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
  7. Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in !yurop@lemm.ee. (They're cool, you should subscribe there too!)
  8. Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
  9. No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)

(This list may get expanded when necessary.)

We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.

If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.

If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the mods: @federalreverse@feddit.org, @poVoq@slrpnk.net, or @anzo@programming.dev.

founded 9 months ago
MODERATORS
top 4 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Together with Britain, Norway and Switzerland, the continent’s GDP reaches $24.5trn, almost as big as America’s $29trn. American firms, from brewers to banks, would like to continue doing business in that market. That is the premise of Europe’s retaliatory tariffs, which will fall initially on easily substitutable luxury goods, such as Harley-Davidson motorcycles and whisky.

What can I say? I like it.
But then there's also this:

The hitch is that tariffs or other restrictions on imports from America hurt European consumers as well as American exporters. A case in point is Europe’s biggest import from America, energy. Last year it gobbled up 35% of America’s exports of crude and refined oil. More than half of America’s LNG went to Europe, too. Demand from the bloc, which may well keep rising long into the 2030s, underwrites many of the multibillion-dollar gas-export projects under development in America. Were Europe to curtail LNG purchases from America, many American energy firms would be in trouble. But it is hard for Europe to do this without crippling its already limping economy or again becoming dependent on Russia, an alarming predicament from which it has only just escaped.

Not so good.
But however I look at this (and other stories of destroyed relationships with yet another country), it always looks like US economy is the biggest loser.

A more plausible, albeit for the moment entirely hypothetical, target is America’s tech giants. Europe can probably do without Instagram, a social network owned by Meta, for instance, but Meta would be hit hard by the loss of European revenue. Europe has lots of ways to make life difficult for such firms short of banning them from European markets, including taxation and competition policy. This allows it to calibrate the torment, gradually tightening the screws if need be.

nnnyaarrghh, stop! I can only get so hard. 🍆💦

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

America? I think they actually mean just the USA portion of it.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

As a country that has largely abandoned it's own industries and become a net importer of goods, Pumpkin Putin doesn't have the leverage he thinks he does.

America needs the rest of the worlds products more than the rest of the world need them buying it. Will it hurt to lose that many consumers of your product? You bet it will. It'll suck ass and economies will suffer greatly. But not nearly as much as the U.S. will when they can't get their raw materials for the small amount of manufacturing they still DO do.

The only leverage the U.S has is it's military. And militaries run off of fuel, food and oil. It would be crippled within a month if everyone pulls a Norway and stops refueling them.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago