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It's a tough "job" but someone "has to" do it

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[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think in Vienna they have a system where an organization owns an apartment building. It's run by the ppl living in the building. The organization (the inhabitants) charge rent based on the costs of the building. So maintenance, upkeep and future repairs. 0% profit. So the rent is as low as it can practically be.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Sounds like a condo but residents don't have to pay an exorbitant barrier to entry.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

How does this organization buy or build the apartment building?

[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually not sure. I never looked into the details. But the costs of the organization could include a mortgage that paid for it's construction. A developer could build a building, found the organization, fill the apartments, sell it to the organization who uses a mortgage to pay for it. The problem is most likely political or legal depending on where you live.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't that just home ownership with extra steps? How will the organization qualify for a loan without having revenues?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The organization (the inhabitants) charge rent based on the costs of the building.

The mortgage is just a cost. The organization is recouping its costs, including the mortgage.

A mortgage is secured with the value of the property. A sound business plan and a property worth more than the loan amount will convince some lender or another.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Mortgages secured with the value of the property tend to carry higher interest rates than mortgages secured by looking at revenues. A sound business plan typically does not involve renting at the lowest possible price. Besides, the organization still needs to come up with the down payment.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

The members of the organization buy in to the organization. 4 people buying in at 5% of the purchase price, and the organization has a 20% down payment.

This is a simple, straightforward business arrangement. You don't need to show that the organization is making excess profit. You need to show that the organization is able to pay its bills. A "sound business plan" where the members are all contractually bound to the organization is not unreasonable.

[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I’m actually not sure. I never looked into the details.

Why are you asking me? If you're interested to know more, surely there's plenty of information on-line

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 0 points 13 hours ago

Because you suggested the idea?

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine if we treated housing as a service instead of something to profit from

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine how we would fund this service, and how we would determine who gets access to which house.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Tax the rich, use a housing coop system of your choice.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

In the U.S. the top 1% pays 40% of federal income taxes. The top 10% paid 76% and the top 25% paid 89%...

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

Federal income tax means jack shit when most of the ultra wealthy dodge it by taking loans backed by stock.

[–] el_muerte@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago

What really gets me about these landleeches is that literally getting property for free, paid for by someone else, isn't even enough for them. Nope, equity is worthless, gotta have cash on their pockets after paying the mortgage and expenses to count as "profit."