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[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

I mean there's usually some sort of logic behind the name even if it's not immediately apparent. I think monitors are just prone to lots of SKUs and frequent revisions as panels improve. Edit: HP for example has 146 items listed in their monitors section.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Product names now:

Crying wojak: "EWRT-3846-Pro"

Product names back then:

Chad wojak: "Pulsar 25"

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

When non-english-speaking places try to come up with real names, you end up with

Zeuslap, Hgfrtee, and Grebear

So the random characters only slightly inferior

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 1 points 53 minutes ago

I think you mean ZEUSLAP, HGFRTREE, and GREBEAR.

Oh, and they're all the exact same product.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 34 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah the HT269-GH262J has nothing on the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Me, researching online: What's the difference between the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL and the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL v2?

Every spec sheet in existence for the two:

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 points 52 minutes ago

I'll do you one better: The 2 monitors I bought from the same brand a year apart are different in many slight ways, one is capable of like 24hz higher refresh rate, the other has more options in the settings menu, etc.

They have the exact same model number and documentation, the manufacturer just replaced the old one and documentation with a new one without specifying anything had changed.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 7 points 16 hours ago

The release year stat and the price are different

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

The missing tooth detail got me

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (10 children)

My comment from last time this was posted.

The most commonly cited monitor in recent years for this is “AW3423DWF”… Which is AlienWare 34" from 2023, DisplayPort, WQHD, Freesync.

Point is, people see a lot of characters and complain when in reality it is exactly what you are referring to. The name is an encoded version of its capabilities. Its just that the encoding isn’t always clear because if every company used the same encoding they would have the same name. and if there are 2 similar monitors you would need to have every feature in the name to differentiate them, so the shorthand encoding becomes necessary. (Eg, AW3423DW and AW3423DWF only really differ on freesync vs gsync, thus the F at the end)

[–] TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 17 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Just give it a cool name like Deathstalker and put that information on the box.

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

This guy gets it

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Then release Deathstalker Pro, Deathstalker Max and Deathstalker Ultra so that it's easier for the users to know the difference

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And of course it's updated with new versions a few times every year or so. So the Deathstalker Pro from the end of 2024 is actually better in many respects than the Deathstalker Ultra from 2022, but you'll have to check the fine print on the box to make sure you're getting the updated QD-OLED version, and not the older AMOLED version. If it has 220 Hz rather than 240 Hz it should be the newer model. Unless you live in South America, in which case they all use WOLED displays, though the specifications are the same so you have no way of knowing without opening it.

[–] TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

White OLED, every pixel uses a white OLED "backlight" to make the light and RGBW color filters to make the colors. It's one solution to some of shortcomings of earlier OLED technology like color degradation.

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

i think bundling these features together in a brand name and incrementing it with version number would be more helpful.

having the "alienware porkchop 23" would allow people to become familiar with the branding and understand the featureset that this model comes with.

dwf does not mean anything to most.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

That only works if you assume that there is something consistent to version. Some years it's a 34" ultra wide, some years it's a 32" 4k. Will there ever be another 34" ultra wide from alienware? Who knows! Not every monitor gets a revision. and if you have random names for 100 different monitors every year, that doesn't really help make sense of things either.

Alienware Monitor 7.... Well they release 100 different models a year, and every year thats going to increment, and consumers often conflate "bigger number better" so you better make sure you get the numbering right.

And "Porkchop" means absolutely nothing to anyone. DWF at least means something to some people. Going from 0% usefulness to even 10% usefulness is a good move.

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[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I get the logic here but I just don’t think most people think like this. Products are called the “Honda Accord” and the “Apple iPhone” and the “Cordless handheld vacuum” for a reason.

Maybe these code names make sense for the actual engineers working on them. But only the nerdiest of the nerdiest of nerdy consumers will remember a couple of these names. In my line of work I’ve spent a couple decades with a ton of regular folks, non-techy people. You might be surprised how many of them can barely remember what number of iPhone they’re on, and don’t even think about asking them which version of iOS is installed.

TBC: This is not a knock against people who aren’t neck-deep in every industry of every product they own. I couldn’t tell you which engine is in my Hyundai Tuscon or which generation of motor is in my cordless vacuum.

I just think these names are gibberish, probably greenlit by people who don’t think about this stuff. But they aren’t effective names for regular consumers.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As an IT person who has to tell a non it purchasing department what to buy, no. The code names are specific things that return the exact thing you want when searched on stuff like CDW and B&H, and having to explain exact drive space, memory, ecc vs non ecc would be torture. A simple code they can just copy and paste and get exactly what you want is far more efficient.

[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

Totally get that, makes a lot of sense. Although my original point wasn’t about professionals in technical or business settings, I was talking about regular folks. These are consumer products but they’re commonly referred to with technical/engineering names. I think it feels clunky and makes it tough for regular folks to talk about these.

When people tell their friends they got a new iPhone, they don’t say “awe check it out I got the new MYWD3LL/A.” They just say “I got the iPhone 16 Pro Max.” Simple language. There’s gotta be a middle ground here for regular folks.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You actually gave a good example for why these brand names are useless.

How many doors does a Honda Accord have? What type of engine does it have?

It's impossible to answer even these very basic questions, because there are so many different Honda Accords that the name could refer to almost anything. It could be a station wagon with a diesel engine, a four-door hybrid sedan, a hatchback, a SUV etc.

In fact monitors do usually have fancy brand names like Predator, ROG Swift or UltraGear that function exactly like the Accord name, giving you some hint as to where the manufacturer think it belongs in their product stack. They just aren't useful for identifying a specific model, and since there are so many different models, you need the alphabet soup to make sure we are talking about the same thing.

[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I was trying to keep my examples simple for the point but cars usually have sub-brand designations that answer some or most of your questions. Like “LE” or “XR” and such. But people don’t walk around telling each other they drive a “Honda 8CVXY64LLM123GRV,” because most people don’t remember code names like that. They just say “yeah I drive an Accord, it has features x y and z that I really like.”

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

People don't walk around telling each other they use an "ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27ACDNG" either. They'll say they have a "27 inch OLED", or possibly a "27 inch 1440p OLED from Asus".

You could use the sub-brand and say you had an "Asus ROG Strix" if you wanted, but all that might tell someone is that it's from Asus' midrange gaming segment.

The unique id is simply handy to keep the many models apart. Asus has 217 displays listed on their (US) store. They have 14 different 27" 1440p displays under the ROG Strix brand alone, three of which are OLEDs and you better not get them confused because they use different OLED technology.

Would it be better if they had more diverse product names instead? I'm not so sure. With so many models you'd probably end up with something like the "ASUS ROG Strix Centurion Speed² Ultra+ Black", and I don't think that's any easier than "XG27ACDNG", which at least is short.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

But the model number isn't really the "name" either. That would be "Alienware 34-inch Monitor", from that year, etc. That they don't call that their "Mars" line of monitors is maybe a marketing issue, but the thing people want to know first/most about a tv/monitor is how big it is.

Cars and Phones have product numbers that break down the same way but like you say the general public doesn't refer to them that way. Like the Samsung Galaxy S24 instead of "SM-S928U", which is the North American (T-Mobile?) specific model.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This method also works for display resolution names like WHKLWXD which is 4k but with six extra pixels on the left side.

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[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sony and everything that isn't a PlayStation

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I‘m sure the Playstation also has a horrible internal model name. It would be necessary to distinguish different variants.

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Japan received the SCPH-1000, North America received the SCPH-1001, and Europe received the SCPH-1002.

i do not like this

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago

I wonder why Sony wants Japan to have bigfoot, America to have Ya-Te-Veo, and Europe to have the shadow objects.

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The naming pattern makes it easier to have different "models" per major retailer. This hinders consumer price comparisons.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

or grey market imports. Like TVs in Eastern Europe have different codes than in Western Europe even when they are the same yet the Eastern European version is often cheaper. Like the only difference is the frequencies they accept on the CI+ module or something. But that doesn't matter for most people since they hook up the tv-box from the cable company trough HDMI anyways.

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[–] Scholarofthedeep@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same method companies use for generating brand names on Amazon.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. Like my highly successful
LG V ~60~ ^ThinQ^ 5GUW | DualScreen

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