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[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Types fast, thinks slow

[–] goodgame@feddit.uk 11 points 5 hours ago

why even fly? Just jump up high in San Francisco, and wait for the earth to revolve beneath you before coming back down and landing in Houston. Houston, no problem.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

See this is why Trump needs to cut the FAA and its wasteful spending!

/s

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We don't live in a Meritocracy, not even close.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's a Charismacracy; those who can out-popular the others wins.

[–] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

It's not even out popular others, its if you have the money, you just buy yourself the merit. You win because of you family name. You can buy your way into the best schools, and quite possibly pay others to do your work, or just flat out pay for better grades, I mean who in their right mind is going to flunk the child a major school benefactor?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

More like "He who pops from the right (read: sufficiently wealthy) vagina wins!"

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

True meritocracy had never been implemented in any human society larger than a small village.

It had been partially implemented in several places/times

What we have today is a partially implemented one in middle management, technocrats and engineers.

Where out of touch upper management and owners are the rule. But if I look at any successful company I will find the tech and middle management running it day to day

[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

We're so close to just having the workers run their own affairs, the table is set we just have to make everyone realize the actual owners are useless and do nothing

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And more than just realizing that, we need to find a realistic path to take that power away from them.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 59 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

For those wondering why it did fly that way, it was a whole thing on Twitter: weather, fly zones, mostly.

https://www.thepoke.com/2025/02/26/elon-musk-said-planes-fly-straight-line-owned-into-economy-class/

Obviously the permanent main character on Twitter popped up to assert that planes must go straight despite flying in a private jet constantly that doesn't do that, and after a few hours the original guy said he asked the pilot when they landed (20 min ahead of schedule) and the pilot told him it was to avoid turbulence, which is likely what they say when a full answer seems like it'll just go over folks heads.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Elon Musk "rocket scientist"

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

There’s also the Great Circle flight paths. Essentially, because the earth is round, it’s actually a shorter distance to fly in an “arc” (when looking at a flat map). In the below picture, the upper curved line is actually shorter than the lower straight line:

Here’s another image which demonstrates why the curved line looks longer on a flat map:

And because of how map projections work, this applies to virtually any flight path that isn’t directly north/south… Just like the one in OP’s photo.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

The path in the post has nothing to do with the great circle. The shortest path is very similar to how it appears on the Mercator projection (actually slightly bent in the other direction) because SF and Houston are fairly close and in a position where Mercator distortions are less pronounced.

Also, a line is the shortest path when the 2 points are both on the Equator (where the projection distortion is zero)

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Worth pointing out too, that the air isn't "flat" either, you can have headwinds, tailwinds, and turbulence that will affect the shortest and most economical path.

[–] maxdejesus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 10 hours ago

It’s also good to mention that the projection shown in the tweet wasn’t Mercator either, it was a globe rendered via Apple Maps.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There's also the fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid and great circles are the shortest distance between two points on that shape. (Though this may not apply for short flights like this.)

[–] heckypecky@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 12 hours ago

And it doesn't apply because it would be curved upwards

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 102 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Because the chemtrails turned the flight paths gay

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

no, this is SF to LA. It was the estrogen in the water that turned the flight path gay.

edit: we may also have local aviation laws that prevent straight flight paths. I'm not familiar with california aviation laws.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 65 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Musk's DOGE let data leak, erased data from a goverment db by misstake, fired important figure working with nuke programs, Ebola and more in front of the whole fucking world.

Can you imagine a bigger fuck up?

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 6 points 11 hours ago

For now I assume that the whole thing is working out well for Mr. Musk. By now he has probably weakened the specific agencies that were a thorn in his side sufficiently he'll earn back the few hundred million it cost him to buy that position.

So he's not an idiot, but he's a problem.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, the person who hired Musk

[–] Fluke@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago

Ah, but he didn't hire him, he just made him an advisor. Hiring him would required oversight that would have given others a chance to give a firm "Fuck No".

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

And the 77 million people who voted for that person despite knowing exactly who he was.

[–] ugh@lemmy.world 253 points 1 day ago (34 children)

Y'all, this has nothing to do with the curvature of the Earth. There are mountains and multiple no-fly zones that would be crossed if they flew in a straight line.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 188 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

It's still presented in an anti-intellectual "just asking questions" format though.

Further we are all just internet jabronis. It isn't literally our job to know this stuff. Knowing this stuff is kind of literally this guys job. Knowing the things you just described is kind of the whole "logistics" thing.

Whatever the reasons for the path are, we accept that qualified people know what they are doing. In asking this question, he is showing how unqualified he is.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

I worked for almost 40 years at a company that made rocket engines. For the first couple decades (and all the time prior to my starting there), the head of the company was someone who came up through the ranks. They were very knowledgeable about rocket engines, or at least very knowledgeable at the aspect that they worked on (there are a lot of specialties involved), and somewhat knowledgeable about the others.

But as the company traded hands, we ended up with CEOs or GMs that knew nothing about rockets and instead were just focused on the business aspects of it. Some of them were smart people, but they wouldn't have cared if the company was making spoons or skateboards. From my vantage point, the company really went downhill when that happened, but I don't think it's uncommon these days.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this guy knows nothing about logistics.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 33 points 20 hours ago

Thank you for articulating why exactly I felt this way about the post. I couldn't quite get to that point myself.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 68 points 21 hours ago

They neither teach nor require smart at management schools.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 45 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

You can be the dumbest mother fucker the Earth has ever produced and you will still easily be able get a business degree from any greasy college of your choice.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It's wild to me that consumting has become such a massive industry in the last 20 years. It's all just a bunch of kids freah out of college with zero experience in anything practical telling you to cut costs, raises prices, and do light crime. Why do companies pay millions when the CEO's dumbass son could have just told them the same thing?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago

CYA and possibly liability reasons. "I didn't make the bad decision, I was following the advice of the consultants."

But also there are times you actually do need advice from experts. Not all consultants are bad. But yeah, a lot of it is just CYA stuff.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"Consumpting" is an impressively opaque typo, for being one letter off.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 11 hours ago

Sunday morning typing is hard after clubbing all night. not too bad for seeing double

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago

America's just fat. Big ol' lump sticking out of the disc. The turtle under us is getting arthritis.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 33 points 21 hours ago (9 children)

He should ask Luigi for a detailed description of fly-zones, fuel consumption vs altitude and terrain, and air traffic (timing) to a lesser extent.

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[–] maxwellfire@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I'm confused. People are saying this is due to earths curvature, but this is in the northern hemisphere so shorter paths should be more northern, not more southern.

See this map of the actual shortest distance line (purple) for those two points. The image OP's question seems much more reasonable given this information?

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

Planes don't fly great circle routes though, there's overfly fees, weather, mountains, ETOPS and just plain politics... This route looks ordinary compared to some international routes, eg Helsinki to Singapore where you dodge Russia and Ukraine for politics, taking you way below the great circle route, then Turkey for overfly fees and Iran for politics, taking you almost back up to the great circle route, before dipping down again to avoid the Himalayas

1000046746

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[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 65 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

The question is very reasonable - and the answer far from obvious as evident from the wrong one being uprooted in this thread. To be clear: I don’t know the answer either, only that you’re right about the curve going the wrong way.

What’s more worrying is the CEO of a global logistics company asking it - and on a public forum rather than of his employees.

It’s akin to a school director standing in the schoolyard during recess and asking why his teachers aren’t in the classroom teaching at that moment.

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[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@lemmynsfw.com 104 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It has been my experience that the closer you get to the CEO position the more a person believes "I don't have to know how to do the task, I just have to employ someone who does!"

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