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In the West communist parties are tiny compared to the rest of the population and have been antagonized for almost a century.

I literally don’t know one American irl that knows what communism and socialism actually are and all of them just think that both of those are bad

Kind of like this

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZT2C7LsHj/

I am not so sure that westerners will listen to communist even when they are doing a Revolution. I think that probably a París Commune 2.0 will happen.

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[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 month ago

Parties can be small and then become quite big and a majority. The Bolsheviks were a minority, don't forget it. It works also the other way around, look how the SED disappeared.

[–] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I think about this often. Many parties, especially in the global north. Decades of propaganda, infighting, and distance from the masses have led to a lot of irrelevance.

[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But that's also because of the shrinking of proletarian in the First World. Most productive jobs have been outsourced to the Third World. Many workers in the Global North want to become bourgeoise, they have no material interest in revolution.

[–] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago

It's worth pointing out that the population clamoring to become bourgeoise comes from a place of constant capitalist propaganda from birth. I used to want that as well, until the right people at the right time of my life pointed me at the right content creators which led me to theory. Now, instead of wanting to become bourgeoise, I want to make bourgeoise proletariat again.

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

This antagonism will disappear if the communists come into power and manage to improve the lives of the people

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's an anecdotal statistic going around historian circles, that if a revolution gets 1% of the country's population to participate in some capacity, then it succeeds.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is the logic behind that?

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

More of an observation that most successful revolutions or protests so far in history, where we have data for, had at least this many people.

When I learned of this, it was used to make a point that 1% of a country is actually quite a lot of people when they get together.

[–] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Alright, so 3.4 million people in the US's case. That's over a thousand times as many people as the group who stormed the capitol. Could work, I'd say.