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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 97 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Far from enough, make that motherfucker go bankrupt

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Even if the situation wasn't as abysmal as it is, the stock has been overvalued for many years now, basically riding on Elon's charisma above all.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Elon’s ~~charisma~~ market manipulation that the SEC fined him for dozens of times to pump and dump Tesla stocks with buybacks, above all

FTFY

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago

Those are rookie numbers. You gotta pump those numbers up. Or down. Whatever is appropriate given the situation.

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Who cares? Certainly not Musk. He used Tesla to buy Twitter to be a proxy to the president where he has gutted NASA, tax officials and forced business contracts with 50 of so companies worth literally hundreds of billions. He doesn’t give a shit about Tesla it’s an old stepping stone.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As I understand it, Musk's money comes from loans using Tesla as collateral. If the collateral's value vanishes, banks get hesitant for new loans at least.

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He is chief negotiator between Ukraine and Russia in a war. Finland alone is spending 8.5bn a year on this war.

He owns SpaceX and Starlink satellites. Military systems. He controls the entire American Government budget. He can shutdown American resistance to Russia by apparently emailing any government department. I’m sure to Russia that’s worth more than Tesla alone. He can pay welfare in crypto, forcing the poor to adopt it once he’s gotten in at the bottom for cheap. He can systematically and openly destroy all business rivals and government regulators.

I’m sure banks are terrified of him. He’s also the richest person in the world. You’re telling me the bank isn’t lending money to the richest man in the world?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

The banks are still loaning him money for sure, but at a certain point that's not exactly a good thing for musk. The stock price is what the banks are using as collateral, and with these types of loans the banks have the ability to collect on the loans if the stock devalues past a certain point.

Musk is only the richest man in the world on paper, and that's because Tesla stock is overpriced by several orders of magnitude. If Tesla stock receives a reasonable correction, there's a very good chance that it's going to have a cascading effect on his other forms of collateral.

He and other "billionaires" are a lot like people juggling too many loans using their homes as collateral. And like them if the housing market (economy) collapses they are going to be in really poor positions. It's really just gambling and betting numbers always goes up, just so you don't ever have to pay taxes.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure he can get loans off all his other overvalued businesses that are also propped up with government grants and loans if Tesla disappeared overnight.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He doesn’t give a shit about Tesla it’s an old stepping stone.

Not exactly, I would even say it's quite the opposite.

The car business of Tesla is one thing, but Tesla is morphing into a whole new company with much wider perspectives than selling EV, and that I doubt Musk doesn't care about.

What Musk can't be bothered with while is playing the diva next to his orange dummy, is the market panicking like it always does the moment things become wobbly and the moment it doesn't understand something, anything. Doing so, they start overselling and that puts Tesla stock at a nice discount... for anyone rich enough and patient enough to buy it at the right opportunity (aka not while it's falling).

That discount will make those already rich people a lot more richer thx to people panicking and thx to the media fueling that panic with their sensationalist headlines. What an amusing coincidence most if not all those turd media also belong to rich people that want nothing more than getting richer themselves.

[–] lydon_feen@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let's hope it loses 60% in two months, then.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let’s hope it loses 90% in three months, then.

[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

120% in four months it is then!

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

It’s not impossible Tesla stock will reach negatives by then

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Tesla can fuck right off!

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wished I knew how to short stocks!

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately Tesla stock is so overpriced that it takes a whole bunch of money to sustain a short sale unless you have insider info.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ok, but how are they over the last year/3 years?

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All gains from the last 3 years have been erased. Actually the first time they reached this price was in januari 2021.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago

All gains from the last 3 years have been erased. Actually the first time they reached this price was in januari 2021.

Does it matter? It's a noob question here, as I'm not sure to understand what you want to say and if that matter the first time it was at a certain price. I would have thought the last time was what mattered.

I just checked the graph (i don't much stock, so I need to check data ;) and to me it looks like Tesla is down to its Oct/November 24 (not 2021) price which is already an impressive drop (and it looks it will keep going down today too). But it also has been at that level more than a few time since 2021. And reached much lower in early 2023, somewhere in the 100-120, and at 175 in May 2024

What's interesting looking at the graph is to see how often those lows are followed by a bounce... I would be curious to see how much more it will go down (and for how long) before it bounces again... If I had a Cristal ball I would be rich, I suppose :p

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

They are still up 21% over the past 6 months.

They are still up 47% over the past year.

[–] Gawdsausage@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

This is why you invest in TSLQ instead. When TSLA goes down, TSLQ goes up.

[–] tatann@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile professionnals in charge of fixing Tesla car body/windshields 🤑🫰

The options premiums are nuts. Everybody's expecting further moves.

[–] vormadikter@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago

Oh no!

Anyway.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

That's encouraging, but let's do more. We can make a difference.