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London is ready to send its troops to Ukraine to secure a "good deal" on ending Russia's full-scale war, U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer said at a press conference with U.S. President Donald Trump in the White House on Feb. 27.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

God, I hope that's more than just rhetoric. Let the shock of the US's unforgivable betrayal lead to serious action from Europe.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the UK and Europe all rally behind Ukraine as a massive fuck you to Trump, it would be absolutely magnificent.

Trump is an absolute embarrassment. How he treated Zelensky was beyond shameful.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So much of what is publicly known about the UK's intelligence capability (presumably military too) is tied up with the US. Based on this alone I'd bet that we (as in the UK) are simply not in any position to turn around and defy the US.

Remaining trapped in this position moving forwards is another matter. Europe has no choice but to develop capabilities that do not rely on the US. Only an idiot would think this is good for the US.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yup. Those are our Trump Supporters. They think he's just swell.

[–] Pk_thunder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't even been able to watch the video of them honestly, it's a major source of depression as an American.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 4 points 20 hours ago

It's just a draft dodger and a couch fucker sitting there bullying the shit out of a person who has spent the last 2 odd years leading his country though a violent invasion.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think the UK putting boots on the ground to police a peace deal agreed upon by Russia and the US is what you meant?

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If EU plus UK follow through with their rhetoric, there will be no need for an exclusionary bilateral deal between the US and Russia.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 21 hours ago

Correct, that's the only way out of here where EU keeps its dignity, Ukraine keeps its ass, and US looks like a pathetic clown jerking off in the corner after trying to spank Ukraine on global stage for being a "shiti bitch"

It is some what of an opportunity for EU to assert itself a Great Power able and willing to protect its interest IN ITS OWN BACK YARD.

I have doubts EU will come together, Germany is not on board due to their oligarchy is not interested in this arrangement.

EU itself can probably still do it but it will a lot harder.

Germany has zero incentive to play for EU here though... they got 40k US troops in Germany, Russia won't ever bother attacking them and they could be buying that cheap Russian gas again if Trump flips into Russia ally, which is a real risk now.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

I mean you could have done this day one, but now is good too I guess

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine the UK getting access to a bunch of minerals that the US could have had, except Trump is the shittiest of negotiators. All he had to do was shut up, Ukraine was ready to make a deal.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 21 hours ago

Bro at the end of the day if Ukraine is integrated into EU, US capital would still get the lions share of the reconstruction.

Big man always gets paid first, that's just political economy 101.

Trump doing the circus hurt US more, since now every one is wondering...

damn daddy who is next to get the belt buckle for not sucking dick hard enough?

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Hopefully they do