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Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:

Does Firefox sell your personal data?

Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.

That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."

The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:

Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

This is why I am an advocate for publicly-funded Internet, like how people fund NPR and BBC.

I don't blame Firefox because at the end of the day, they are still a business and need to cover the operating cost. I blame the system that we're in and the elites will tell you there is no other alternative.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

please pay me if you want to sell my data. At the end of the day I am a business and need to cover operating cost.

Is there an open source tool to generate fake user activity data for Firefox to consume?

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 2 points 47 minutes ago

Aaaand that's why I switched to Brave. If you have shit performance and are selling my data, what's the redeeming quality? 8gb of RAM should be enough to browse the internet. IDK why Firefox insists it isn't....

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 52 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

current acting CEO of Mozilla is Laura Chambers. An Australian native and has quite...interesting work history.

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It's weird isn't it? how these same names keep coming up again and again...

Ebay, Paypal, Airbnb.

she would have likely worked with Thiel and Musk during her time there. I wonder if there's any lingering commitment there?

[–] Kurroth@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As an Australian.Do not trust us when it comes to privacy, security especially in tech or the digital space.

We are not a nation descendant of 'convicts' but of prison guards and other colonial boot lickers.

We are US lite or US 10years ago or maybe their tearing ground. Can't figure it out.

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah don't trust us, we've gutted all forms of STEM that aren't directly related to digging shit out of the ground for Gina Rinehart and co

Serious intellectual brain drain in this country now, we really are the US 10 years ago, hopefully the US explodes enough to stop all our idiots blindly following their jingoism to our doom

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Glad you shared this. I hate to be That Tin Foil Hat Person but it seems really convenient that a Musk and Thiel tied CEO happens to take over the one browser base that isn't Chromium just before people start moving to it for privacy in escalating numbers.

[–] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 hours ago

Man, this is very disappointed news. Thanks though, good to know.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

McKinsey is honestly scarier. They may not be a household name like the others, but look them up. They are frightening.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

McKinsey, you forgot that, whatever the fuck it is

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago

shit no i shouldn't pretended. i do NOT want to learn more. but yes, thanks for the link.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Stanford too

[–] Solventbubbles@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Son of a bitch I just got back into Firefox.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 hours ago

Get in loser, we’re going to librewolf apparently. Fuck me I’ve reached the age of seeing all the things I like die. I don’t even remember a time I didn’t use Firefox. God damn it

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is there any android port?

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Not at the moment, but the Librewolf folks recommend Ironfox.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 26 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I remember a time when Google wrote "Don't be evil" all over their stuff.....

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

There's a phrase that is still very close to that in some company statement still, I sort of view it as pointless to talk about. We know they're evil by their actions, and they were evil before they removed it in sure. If the statement is what matters, it's still basically there, just not the motto. It's just not worth worrying or talking about. They do so much worse shit. A friend of mine was recently let go after protesting about their response to the genocide in Gaza.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 hours ago

dude i worked in a buncha different college libraries around the time of google's initial ascension. Google slayed. it was awesome, in 2000.

now? google is a drippy search engine.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Gahhhh this is horrible

I spent some time switching to Librewolf this morning but at the end of the day, it having Firefox as the upstream means it’s all fragile and tenuous anyway

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

What's the next Android browser I'm installing fam?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I just have friends send me memes to my clamshell flip phone through SMS

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Get your ham license and send them by SSTV over the air. Truly decentralized. https://youtu.be/Yak__tnFHKs

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 hours ago

They can't just promise they "never will" and then get rid of it. People who used the service under the original agreement should still be able to claim that benefit since it was promising to never sell it.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Several questions:

  1. How are they getting our data?
  2. What is the nature of the data?
  3. Can we do anything in about:config?
[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 8 points 2 hours ago

How are they getting our data?

By setting up small pieces of code that trigger when you use a given feature, and send a network request to Mozilla's servers with either a single flag set to just show a feature was used, in general, or more additional data with context (e.g. how long the text is that users are putting into their new AI sidebar feature)

What is the nature of the data?

This section of their Privacy Notice explains what categories of telemetry data they collect.

Can we do anything in about:config?

None needed. The normal settings menu has you covered. Go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Firefox Data Collection and Use > Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 39 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

I'm about to get my tattoo removed wtf

[–] KrapKake@lemmy.world 24 points 5 hours ago

Just get "RIP" tattooed under it.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago

That clarification is not making me calm

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