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Elon Musk called on retired air traffic controllers to return to work, citing a shortage amid heightened scrutiny of the FAA under Trump's second term.

With DOT Secretary Sean Duffy's support, Musk's DOGE attempts to "upgrade" aviation systems despite recent FAA job cuts.

The AP reports fired employees included radar and navigational aid maintenance personnel, though Duffy insisted no "critical safety personnel" were terminated.

Musk's appeal comes amid increased public concern over recent aviation incidents, though experts consider the uptick an anomaly.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

lol bet he just found out that his private jet also has to wait in line.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

You mean that people who work in one of the highest-stress jobs in the world might not want the added stress of being potentially shitcanned at any second by this apartheid manchild?

Moron with history of fucking shit up fucks shit up. No one stops him. Some applaud. Start the wood chipper.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I used to work for Amazon in a division I didn't feel grimey for. Spent over 7 years of my life in that division, doing great things and recurringly got top performer review status and was even awarded role model on top of that on several occasions.

Then they laid me off in 2023, after my latest review of "top performer" & award of "role model".

About 2 weeks ago a recruiter reached out to me for a role in AWS and I responded with, "Amazon shouldn't have laid me, a top performer and role model, off if they'd like me to work for them."

ATCs should give this response to Musk.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

A friend of mine was laid off in a firing of 300 workers. A couple of years later, a new upper manager comes in and tries to hire 500.

The people making decisions at large corporations have no idea what's happening on the ground, they just see major shareholders, a budget and expenses.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they did a wave massive layoffs in tech in 2023, my bro was included i knew he would be a target, because if you earning that much income, its bound to happen.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

My friend just retired. Today.

He'd been working the same job a decade, but he did about half his career with the same company.

He consistently made 10% less because #union, but it was consistent and reliable. Now he gets half pay until he dies.

People chasing that Amazon pork, I'm thinking made a mistake.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shame you can't do the same with CEOs

[–] irreticent@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was told there was no such thing as a shortage in a free market, why won't the executive branch embrace free market economics?

Musk is discovering he can't hire foreign workers to replace people at will. That some federal workers perform highly specialized and high stress tasks that you can't fix with his typical knuckle dragging tactics.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“upgrade”

Tesla Autopilot… for planes?

EVERYBODY RUN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION!

[–] ArtemisimetrA@lemmy.duck.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hadn't flown since right before quarantine dropped in the US, and flew United once last year. I was already thinking I'd stick to driving

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If you wanna stay here then yeah. Imagine giving up everything you've built up in this country to escape, doing that so your children can have better life, and the airplane crashes. They're making us scared to live, scared to leave. Any action besides being in compliance.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

As a guy who has to travel for work. I hope that these guys tell him to pound fucking sand

Really highlights how stupid Republicans and Musk really is and how his companies thrived despite his leadership not because.

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[–] chairman 78 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is so easy to fix. Just ask the remaining ATCs to put in 30 more hours per week. If there is a safety law which needs to be amended to make this happen, just amend it. Remove all the rules and safeguards. We should do it like the Tesla factories.

Look. More air accidents will happen. People should be ready to sacrifice themselves. It's that easy.

So easy to fix.

PS: /s for some of you who may need it..

[–] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We also need to brace ourselves for hardship. I mean Elon won't be facing monetary hardships but you will. So brace for that.

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What happened to “AI will do it”?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Oh he needs those useless federal workers? Most of those people remember what reagan did and feel no loyalty at all to the republican party.

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[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

"I clear cut the forest and now there is a shortage of trees. Woe is me."

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

its not possible since they are forced to retire by law at 56 anyways, and they already proven that with studies that past a certain age you cant maintain the same cognitive abilities like in your 20s-40s.

[–] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 247 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Well if it isn't the consequences of his own actions.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Fucked around ✅

Found out 👈

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[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Ummm, didn't he fire them? Also, how many air traffic controllers does he think are using his xitty platform?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago

Exactly how he runs Tesla, too. Fire a bunch of people, just to rehire even more 2 to 3 weeks later.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 147 points 2 days ago (11 children)

"There is a shortage"

ah damn i love that language. reminds me of the boss that abused my mother back when she was still in employment. "there is a shortage, you need to come over on your day off, otherwise we can't handle the workload". how about employing more people? no? maybe because you can't find another fool who will do the work with these bad working conditions?

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But what happened to move fast and break things?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’re broken. We’re onto step 2

  1. Move fast and break things
  2. ???
  3. Profit
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Step 2 is "Steal everything not nailed down".

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

doesn't this guy musk like run a lasertag emporium or shit

[–] arin@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pay more wages, the way of a free market is supply and demand

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago

The shortage is his own damn fault. I wouldn’t want to work any government job right now.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago

Fucking clown show

[–] childOfMagenta@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

As much as I loathe the twat, this issue predates him. Now, after what he's done to the FAA, good luck convincing them to come back. A very stressful, understaffed job... Sure they'll want to get out of retirement...

[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 130 points 2 days ago (5 children)
  1. Claim a federal agency is inefficient
  2. Fire employees and defund agency
  3. Agency performs worse than before
  4. Point finger at the agency showing how it is incompetent
  5. Move to privatize agency
  6. $$$$$$$
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[–] JBar2@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago (7 children)

US law mandates retirement at 56 for Air Traffic Controllers due to the high stress and fast-paced multi-tasking nature of the job

It's considered one of the most mentally challenging jobs there are.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/8335

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[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 96 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about you just increase the pay and benefits you’re offering? if you love the efficiencies of the free market so much why don’t you fucking act like it

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Time to renegotiate salary!

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago

He is easily the worst person there is to ask for it.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fucking beg, fascist bitch.

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[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Elon is afraid that he will cause a disaster equal to or worse than the one in Tenerife

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it safe to bring back retired people? They retire for a reason, usually.

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[–] engene@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t even think of flying down to the US for this very reason - I wouldn’t feel safe.

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