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How 18-24 year olds voted in the German election (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 4 hours ago by borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
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I'm sure Palestine played a big role in this

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

I'm sure Palestine played a big role in this

I actually don't think so. Die Linke has at best a both-sidesy position on Israel-Palestine. My impression from the people i've talked to is that they don't really think much about foreign policy. It's the progressive economic and social policies of Die Linke that attract younger people. Just like it's not the AfD's stance on Russia or anything as intellectually complex as NATO-EU that attracts people to vote for them, but rather simple things like xenophobia and anti-vax conspiracy theories.

People are primarily worried about the things that personally impact them (or that they think impact them) most immediately. Of course exceptions exist (all of us communists are proof of that), but most people are not as engaged with what is happening in the rest of the world as we are.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

I mean heart's in the right place for those who voted Die Linke, but at the same time, yeah, a lot of them are pro-Israel

BSW has its own can of problems, but economically and foreign policy-wise, they're good, so as long as they make their cultural policy a non-mainstay, it'd be fine.

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Aren't they all Zionists (except bsw)?

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

There is a lot of brainwashing that goes on in German schools so if a quarter of 18-24 year olds are voting for "don't send weapons but israel has a right to defend itself" that should be taken as a good sign.

The east is a podcast has a really good 2 part interview about zionism in germany.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 22 minutes ago

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 41 minutes ago

Basically yes. Die Linke offers some lip service to the idea of stopping all weapons exports, but they undermine their own position on this by repeating Zionist lies about the Resistance. When you continue to insist that "Israel" has a right to exist and defend itself from the vicious "terrorists" who just out of nowhere and for no other reason than being bloodthirsty savages decided to attack and kill innocent civilians on Oct 7, then you only help the other parties justify continuing to arm the Zionists to commit genocide.

They engage in the same hypocrisy on the subject of the Ukraine conflict by the way: simultaneously claiming to want peace negotiations and an end to weapons deliveries, yet repeating many of the same NATO talking points about Russia and the Ukraine conflict that all the mainstream parties spout.

And because they are too small of a party to have any influence on the actual policies of the government, they can safely pose as being pro-peace because they are never in a position to follow through on that rhetoric with concrete action. Whereas them strengthening the propaganda talking points is something that actually matters because it helps the government to continue the current course. As a small opposition party the most effective thing they could do would be to call out the mainstream on its lies like the BSW does on Nordstream, Ukraine, sanctions, etc. ...But they haven't and they won't.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

20% of young people in Germany have no problem with another genocide happening to ensure a white ethnostate and some other 50 odd % are just hiding it in a better way

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

It's more like 70% who have no problem with genocidal ethno-supremacism, because as we have seen over the past year, the SPD, Greens and CDU are all diehard Zionists. The current SPD-Green government is the one that has been actively persecuting pro-Palestinian voices and professing virtually unconditional support for the Zionist project. And CDU will be no different.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 hours ago

That's a lot of little extremists.

[–] Nalumixx@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Die Linke isn't pro-israeln. They say they don't want to send weapons in reagilns of war (which they will never have a say in) but they do say israel has a right to defend itself.

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That sounds very pro-colonists and pro-genocide.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 34 minutes ago

That's because it is. See my other comment above: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/6006884