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The conservative CDU/CSU party is expected to be the largest party in the next German parliament with 30% of the vote, according to the first two exit polls Friedrich Merz, 69, is in pole position to become Germany's next chancellor The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) is set to become the second biggest force in the country, with a record 20% of the vote, according to exit polls

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[–] Domino@lemmings.world 36 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

At least it's not AfD, not much better but not the worst possible outcome. WTF though Germany?

[–] lath@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Similar to US, Germany is very popular with immigrants. Since 1989, there's been a constant flow of people heading towards it.

Also similar to US, most of those immigrants made a home for themselves in Germany. And having built a sense of stability and security for themselves, they felt reluctant to lose it in favour of less friendlier later arrivals.

Germany itself can't provide or accommodate fast enough for the waves of destitute immigrants that were led (intentionally or not) within its borders, so a lot of small crime went unpunished.

Eventually, circumstances led to a much more fearful local populace that are desperate enough to vote for anyone promising them some peace and quiet, at almost any cost.

And a fearful voter is a despicable politician's wet dream.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

According to a small survey done among gay men, AfD was their choice, specially among young gay men.

https://www.romeo.com/en/blog/election-survey-results/

Were honestly so screwed.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We really need to invest in education. Twenty years ago. Maybe thirty.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

Education is not the problem. It's painfully obvious that big tech is colluding with oligarchs and their corporations/lobbyists to brainwash their user base with disinformation.

We need to invest in outlawing surveillance capitalism, along with all the psychological profiling, warfare, and information islands/bubbles it is designed to amplify.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 50 minutes ago

Something shielded me from it, and I basically live in the internet.

[–] DWin@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if that's based on fear, a fear that immigrants won't be approving of who they are, and they see voting AfD as the only way to reduce that risk.

Not saying it's right, but it's a sentiment I've been seeing. I remember a high profile case with a trans woman being attacked on the streets in Paris by men speaking Arabic back in 2015. Statistically unlikely doesn't really quell the fear.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It’s based on who you experience as perpetrators of homophobic attacks. I’m bi myself and have plenty non straight friends. The numbers of homophobic attacks by Arabs and Turks dwarfs those by others. This is from our own personal painful experience.

The last time I had to run from a group of Arabs on a weekend night was two months ago.

This isn’t new, but has been a trend for years.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

While I understand you POV, it shows the importance of diversity. People that have friends who are refugees probably wouldn't vote AfD.

[–] don@lemm.ee 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

jfc Germany, are you lot just not paying attention to the disaster that are the Americans?! How the fuck is your entire country just letting this happen?! Fix your shit!

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 43 minutes ago

Oh boy, Czechia is also heading to vote for the worse of the top two. I know I know, the other one doesn't really have much to offer, but at least they are for the things better for society and at least they are not pro Putler. World is fucked and nuclear war doesn't seem so bad now.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] superkret@feddit.org 17 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Nazis won’t be part of the government after this result. The conservatives have stated before the election that they won’t form a coalition with the far right AfD, the green party or the left party. But with this result, they have a majority with the social democrats alone.

This will be a stable, centrist, boring government, typically German. Too little progress, but no catastrophe, and no threat to EU democracy, nor to international obligations or support for Ukraine. Neither party are Putin bootlickers either.

In the opposition, the greens and the left combined have more seats than the AfD. And 84% turnout is the highest since 1987!!!

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

But they will still have 20% of seats, which is not insignificant. I'm glad to see the turnout!

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh okay, thank you for explaining!

Good even if it looks bad, it's not catastrophic yet. One can hope afd will show the voters just how unhinged they are and lose votes for the next election.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"they got us in this situation, let's keep voting for them!"

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

My news bubble says it's the other guy's fault though