this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2025
2 points (62.5% liked)

Asklemmy

45249 readers
1367 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Like do the average Chinese people not know the party leadership? (genuine question and curiosity-thus asking .ml)

top 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Deepseek avoids topics that are usually considered political. AI as a hallucination machine is especially useless with political content as it is extremely polluted with propaganda and wildly different views on similar contexts, so it isn't for censorship. And yes, the people in China know about and speak about their leadership.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

China has a pretty strict policy about not allowing anything that is anti-social and can be used to create mass unrest. A generative AI that can produce millions of fake news stories about political leaders is one of those anti-social things. It was one of the reasons OpenAI was so terrified of the possibilities of what they figured out. China just made it policy instead of sitting idly by whole bad actors automated incendiary publishing.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

Not a Chinese person, and I don't really know much about their style, but if random guesses are ok:

It may have been turned off, due to the risk that politically motivated actors may use it to print out something and then use it for propaganda, saying that a Chinese AI has exposed the CPC n all?

Especially since the U S is a trade war with them and there has been usage of genocide propaganda^*^ against them?
* - Considering that the same people have no similar level of concern about Gaza

I think you should ask in some Chinese community. If not, maybe most of the answers would be similar to mine, guesses, which will mostly be our views rather than the fact whether the average Chinese person has info on their leaders.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago

ε“ˆε“ˆε“ˆε“ˆ θΏ™ζ˜―δΈ€δΈͺη§˜ε―† In all seriousness though yes they know. Deepseek just doesnt allow politics. 小纒书 and social media have similar rules. Politics in China is serious not something people need to talk to a hallucinating machine about, or discuss anonymously online. You can see why this is a bad idea if you look at the USA today. Its best to discuss in person and do so calmly and rationally.

Remember chinese netizens have access to all the same information westerners do online. Many speak english, and a VPN is easy to use to go on other sites.

[–] mark@social.cool110.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

@j4k3 Filtering out everything about them is the simplest way to block anything critical of them.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

The Chinese government literally has a 95.5% approval rating as researched by Harvard University over 15 years. The party is not terribly worried about criticism. In fact, because the party is structured with a bunch of internal factions, they are constantly experiencing criticism.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That seems quite dystopian to me. I'd at least like to know who my assailant is when I am harmed. Is there some reliable channel with accessible information in a democratic social context that is not sketchy? Not that the USA has such when Musk is first citizen of Rome or the real senate is a Koch meeting convened every 6 months.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

You should view this post from Lemmy.ml, you are getting good responses from instances you can't see because .world defederated from them.