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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Was 1920s Germany a decaying capitalist country? I thought fascism is more about hierarchy and subjugation based on establishing a class system and capitalism enables the shifting of resources to deprive the masses of the ability to easily resist. Capitalism helps fascism but they can be independent of each other.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, yes it was. Massive economic struggles post ww1, political instability due to the recent shift away from the monarchy. You have probably seen the images of workers hauling their day's pay away in a wheelbarrow and kids playing with stacks of money, because the hyperinflation destroyed its value faster than people could even spend it.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

America and other countries succumbing to right wing politics are turning fascist but missing the hyper inflation and the collapsed economy.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

gestures broadly at 2008

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

One of the major issues of the past election was literally the economy and inflation. Sure it wasn't as bad as 1920s Germany but there's a pretty clear trend that when the economy isn't doing good for people and they struggle they end up either turning to facism or socialism. And the ruling class will resist socialism with everything they have while ending up capitulating to facism. That's part of why in Germany the Nazis came to power rather then the communist and socialist parties. And it's the reason in America why the Democrats fight so hard against people like Bernie to the point they have no good candidates to run and end up giving the win to Trump.

[–] ynazuma@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No it is not

You are just showcasing your ignorance

Fascism was born from defeat after WW1. It can exist in any economic system

Political system is not equal to economic system

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

More like you’re just showing your ignorance.

Sorry fascism is only from the Nazi region of Germany or Italy otherwise it’s just sparkling capitalism to you 🙄

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

i don't understand. one is a form of economy and the other a form of government. how does an economy decay into a government?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Because politics and economics are falsely divided.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

In what world are economy and government separate? They're inherently linked. Basically one is a branch of the other.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A country can have one type of government, like monarchy or anarchy or so, and also one type of economy like communism or socialism or so. Of course, there will be some interaction, eg. laws the government makes can affect the economy or the corruption in the government will manifest differently in another type of economy.

If for example, the king in a monarchy decides to switch from capitalism to socialism, there is nothing that forbids the combination with monarchy. Same, if a king gets toppled and the citizens switch to democracy, they can keep their former type of economy. They are very different properties of a nation.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Could you please give me an example of a country that has a monarchy and exercises communism at the same time? I would love to hear about this.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This literally doesn't make sense at all

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Why? Capitalism consolidated wealth into just a few companies and people. Those people want to be in charge, so they bribe politicians and help them win. The kind of politicians that will take a bribe care more about consolidating their power than representing the people. They rework the government to make it easier to stay in power. This is fascism.

It's practically a straight line.

There are plenty of ways to mitigate this and protect against it, which the US had. These were systematically dismantled over the years and no one stopped it.