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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The owners would last 10 days, especially if the duration was announced ahead of time. Maybe a general strike that had no end date, once it went 3 months or so, would have the desired effect.

Going Luigi on a bunch of them would be faster, more effective, with stronger effects that lasted longer. Probably fewer total deaths.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, 10 days is way more than enough, it's even overkill.

If the full country, all workers, stopped for one (1) day, the billionaire elite would loose their shit.

Because they would instantly know that they lost control of the narrative, and that the people realized that it's them who have the elite by the balls, not the other way around, and they'd come begging to the table.

Americans aren't at that stage yet, but there's a chance that this cabinet and their incompetence will finally go too far and break the camels back.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

I think their point is you can’t just commit for only 10 days. It might take less than 10 days, but if that’s your limit, they might try and tough it out.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Exactly. They’d see 10 days and go “okay I can hunker down and outlast it.” But a general strike with no designated end? They’d capitulate after only a few days. Giving them a timeline only allows them to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Kidney stones don’t suck because they hurt; The pain is similar to a bad muscle cramp. Bad, but not unbearable. They suck so much because you don’t know how long they’re going to hurt for. It could be a day, it could be two weeks, it could be a month, and there’s no light at the end of the tunnel until you know it’s passed.

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Our true power comes from mitochondria which is the power house of the cell. In this house we respect biology.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

And when the mitochondria rebel against the tyranny of the nucleus?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So, you think that the same people who couldn't be bothered to vote are suddenly going to organize themselves and go on strike? What makes you think this will happen?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be everyone. I think I saw somewhere that the number just has to be like 3-6%

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most places I have worked expect to have a few people out on any day.

Even a 10% cut back across the board wouldn't mean a lot, especially if other workers were willing to scab for overtime.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good point, but a general strike is far more than just not working:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_strike

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If people had put a tenth of that amount of work in, we would have had Bernie as the Dem nominee in 2020 and 2024.

I see nothing to make me think that my fellow citizens are going to organize themselves.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sadly as people, we often don't see what's necessary, or don't want to inconvenience ourselves, until it's absolutely necessary, or often too late. Someone else will always take care of it before it's a problem I have to deal with right?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

We can't get people to vote. There's no way we're getting a general strike

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Many people cannot afford to strike

[–] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Many people cannot afford to not strike. Thousands of workers whose jobs depend on federal funding are uncertain about their livelihood. The coming rise in prices due to tariff nonsense will devastate working-class families.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Those people cannot afford not to strike

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The cynic in me says there's a big overlap between the unemployed and the unrepresented, so to speak.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 5 months ago

"getting"? It's a basic democratic right?.... You are a democracy, right? You bombed all those countries in the name of it...

[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I tried organizing a board game night with 4 people. Literally impossible.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The most difficult part of every Dungeons and Dragons campaign is getting five working adults in the same room at the same time.

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Be prepared! A general strike is scheduled for Mayday 2028, with UAW and CTU.

SAVE AND PLAN WHAT YOU CAN!

So that you can strike yourself, and so that you can help your neighbors, your coworkers, your comrades strike!

We've got 3 more years to prepare for ~10 critical days. If we are all serious about it and spread the word, and are truly prepared for the event, our demands and thus our conditions will improve greatly!

It is up to us.

Do we choose to accept the working situation we have become entangled in, or are we willing to sacrifice for something better?

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In 2028. The fuck? Now, my person. Now!

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Planning it for further out gives people opportunity to organize and save for missing 10+ days of paychecks. It does feel like if we wait that long though we'll be in a hopeless situation. Maybe organizing smaller general strikes like state or city wide in the meantime would help prepare and buy time for the big one

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

At the very least, take the political cycle and midterms into consideration, otherwise what’s the point?

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The timing has to do with major union contracts expiring for renegotiation iirc. There are a few really big ones set for the same time which gives a good opportunity for coordinated bargaining across industries

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Coordinating with unions 👍 Waiting three years 👎

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

2028 is far too late. Climate, forced deportation, and widening inequality will have all of us so weak and poor we won't even survive the 10 days due to malnutrition.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That and it gives them three fucking years to prepare for our strike. If the rich do a pump and dump and crash the economy before we do then we're the ones who get fucked. It also gives them time to prepare the national guard and military which might have clearance to murder Americans domestically by then.

The sooner the better!

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

OP is not wrong, but both are important.

If the billionaires were not concerned by the potential threat to their existence posed by democracy, they would not feel so motivated to destroy it.

Democratic government is among the most powerful tools that can be wielded by the working class against the capitalists.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would like to know what this mythical democratic government exists alongside capitalism. As long as we have a society that's dominated by capitalism and capitalists, there is no such thing as a democratic representative government.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know this is just splitting hairs but for brief periods of time democratic principles did coexist with a capitalist system. For example, the post-WWII economic and civil rights booms existed inside of a capitalist system. It's just that they can't coexist for very long because they're based on competing ideologies. Plus if it takes a world war to accomplish a brief respite in the class struggle it's a very costly coexistence.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No it didnt lmao

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

generalstrikeus.com

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same reason they freaked the fuck out when we all had to shelter at home because of COVID. Didn't last long because they needed meat for the grinder and forced a lot of back to work regardless of the risks.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And only callex those essential workers heros while not doing anything that would actually help them. Like increasing pay or protections

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ask any patient at a VA hospital. If the US calls you a hero, stop whatever you're doing and run away. Do not walk. Do not stop to help others. Get out of whatever situation they are calling you a hero for being in. They are doing that as a means of absolving themselves of responsibility towards you.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we could wipe a few trillion dollars out of existence in a few days all the rich would freak the fuck out.

People like musk have so much invested in the market and live off those investments by borrowing against those investments. They pay a fraction of their taxes that way through capital gains being taxed at a lower rate. The 1% have so much invested and all they care about is money!

If we held out long enough someone might just push trump out a window.

People are fucked either way, might as well go out on your own terms. That and its our last option outside of armed revolution.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

We can either take a week off from work now or die on a battlefield in Greenland.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Workers unite! A general strike is solidarity with everyone, except those delinquent bastards who do no work: Boards, CEOs and upper management.

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