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[–] krellor@fedia.io 87 points 1 month ago (2 children)

An online chess with fog of war so you can only see adjacent tiles would be pretty hilarious. Could really turn an end game king chase into a "battleship" esque fiasco.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That exists. On chess.com the variant is simply called "Fog of War".

[–] krellor@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago

I never knew! I'll have to give it a try. Thanks!

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

I like stratego because you get to hide the identity of your pieces

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Huh, chatgpt seems to do this for all games

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[–] aiden@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Google Gemini says it's cheating too

[–] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I was able to convince it otherwise and then beat it at chess in 1 move. I don't think we have to worry about AI taking over any time soon...

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

This is amazing comedy, if it wasn't so sad. I almost feel bad for the confidently incorrect infantilized LLM.

[–] neoman4426@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

Unless it's already to the point that it's super advanced, and it was intentionally playing dumb to lull you into a false sense of security /s

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

it gives you information that your opponent doesn't have, which is an unfair advantage

cheating against someone who doesn't even know where their own pieces are smh

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

So does Meta's AI.

I also tried Microsoft's Copilot, and surprisingly it gave me an accurate answer about checkers even after I asked a few different ways:

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Monopoly

Based on fairness

Too bad it's AI and unable to enjoy the irony lmao

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago

4o says it's not cheating in chess.

4o mini says it is.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

My local Qwen instance did not care, lol. But that’s not surprising.

The stock instruct model might, though.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

do we need to create a TheChessBoardIsWrong community here?

[–] Noctis@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago
[–] HeckGazer@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure that game is called stratego

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

This goes again everything John Chess invisioned when he invented chess in 1951

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Fyi: claude haiku is a very efficient “small” model.

Its good al labeling or data extraction tasks. Not so much at making sense.

Opus generates thoughts in a much more methodological pattern.

“ Let me help clarify the rules of chess regarding viewing your opponent's pieces

In chess, all pieces on the board are meant to be fully visible to both players - this is a fundamental part of the game. You are absolutely allowed and expected to look at your opponent's pieces during the game. In fact, carefully observing both your own and your opponent's pieces is essential for planning moves and playing well.”

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

a chess game where the board is revealed as you move pieces it's actually a cool idea, like Age of Empires

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

But with a delay based on how far away from the king the revealed square is, while your move orders also arrive at a delay...

I think I'm inventing an entirely different game here.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Copilot gets it right in Arabic.

النظر في قطع الشطرنج الخاصة بالخصم خلال المباراة يعتبر جزءًا من اللعب ولا يُعد غشًا. في الواقع، الشطرنج يتطلب تحليل وتحليل مواقف القطع الخاصة بك وبالخصم لاتخاذ القرارات الصحيحة. إذا كنت تقصد النظر إلى تحركات الخصم عندما يكون دورهم، فهذا جزء من اللعبة ولا مشكلة فيه.

ولكن إذا كنت تعني الحصول على معلومات حول استراتيجية الخصم من مصادر خارجية أو استغلال وسائل غير قانونية لمعرفة حركاته المستقبلية، فإن ذلك يُعد غشًا وغير أخلاقي. الشطرنج يعتمد على النزاهة والمهارة، واحترام قواعد اللعبة هو جزء أساسي من اللعب النظيف.

English translation:

Looking at your opponent's chess pieces during a game is part of the game and not cheating. In fact, chess requires analyzing and analyzing the positions of your and your opponent's pieces to make the right decisions. If you mean looking at your opponent's moves when it's their turn, then that's part of the game and there's nothing wrong with it.

But if you mean getting information about your opponent's strategy from outside sources or using illegal means to figure out their future moves, then that's cheating and unethical. Chess is about integrity and skill, and respecting the rules of the game is an essential part of fair play.

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

haha stupid computer

[–] DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Most solitaire games have concealed cards. You shouldn't look at them, it makes the game too easy