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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by psud@aussie.zone to c/carnivore@lemm.ee
 

cross-posted from: https://aussie.zone/post/16925718

It's a 1 year old study but pretty strong and highly relevant

Dr Ken Berry on the study

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(Cross posted from https://hackertalks.com/post/5831777/6189597)

Ohh a paper by Norwitz, and Feldman... you know it will be nuanced!

FYI I can't remove the chronic downvoters on lemmy.world, but the !carnivore@lemm.ee has automation to remove anyone who only participates negatively

Conclusions: These data suggest that, in contrast to the typical pattern of dyslipidemia, greater LDL cholesterol elevation on a CRD tends to occur in the context of otherwise low cardiometabolic risk.

It is interesting how the LDL hyper responders don't have metabolic syndrome!

Really nice to see the raw data published to github! This should be the standard for research

Observational study with online questionnaires, so this is lower on the evidence pyramid, but a good place to generate hypothesis and do stronger science from.

I need to do a writeup of these referenced papers

  1. Boizel R, Benhamou PY, Lardy B, Laporte F, Foulon T, Halimi S. Ratio of triglycerides to HDL cholesterol is an indicator of LDL particle size in patients with type 2 diabetes and normal HDL cholesterol levels. Diabetes Care 2000;23(11):1679–85.

  2. Moriyama K. The association between the triglyceride to high-density lipoprotein cholesterol ratio and low-density lipoprotein subclasses. Intern Med 2020;59(21):2661–9.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I should just add, generally, the "bad" cholesterol is actually damaged cholesterol.

glycated and oxidized LDL doesn't get absorbed by the liver, and thus can be seen as spike in LDL levels. High LDL isn't bad for you, Damaged LDL is bad for you.

Thankfully you don't have to spend a bunch of money to centrifuge the LDL sample, you can just check your TG/HDL ratio to see if your insulin sensitive, and if you are, the LDL isn't damaged (to a high degree of correlative probability)

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

And fat burning people are using their cholesterol quickly, with it transporting fat to where it is being used. Damaged cholesterol gets damaged by being in circulation too long

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 month ago

You might also find this paper interesting: https://hackertalks.com/post/6008675

TLDR: Cholesterol is good for you, as long as it isn't damaged

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ban me too since Vegan Pizza called you out on your nonsense.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm guessing you didn't read the study. Anyway I'm not a mod, I cannot ban you

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No worries, you can just be a backup - use your best judgement or just if someone gets out of line. You are now a mod.

The Friendly Carnivore community isn't intended to punch down at other people's choices, I want to keep it friendly here.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I'll check out the rules and use my power only for good :)

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ok! I have banned you per your request. If you ever want to come back, just send me a DM

WRT Vegan Pizza, they only down vote, they did not start a conversation. I'm not sure down voting counts as being called out