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[–] Dabadoo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sad too. I grew up in the early 1970s loving newspapers and oddly loving the classified ad sections (that sounds strange, but reading scattered somewhat classified content still is pleasing to me. That is how my carefully curated Reddit home feed felt.) As newspapers died, I realized that my small metro area had no good written way to interact or hear about local issues. Our local subreddit became my best source.

And I loved reading subs such as /nursing and /medicine and /talesfromyourserver not because I work in those areas, but because they are IRL communities that I count on for my quality of life and hearing their stories helped me empathize with them and (I think) made me a better human.

If I woke up in the middle of the night, I could read something to get my mind off of whatever was running through my head.

Other than paying for my Apollo subscription, making about 25 comments a year, and using the upvote function liberally, I didn’t interact much. My almost 10 year old account is very shy. I was always wary of being attacked or ignored. Oddly, IRL, I’m very apt to dive into any conversation.

I’m tentatively trying to be more interactive here. Smaller groups feel safer.

[–] southbayrideshare@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone who worked at a major U.S. newspaper in the late 90s, I think the world needs more people who think the way you have just expressed... valuing local information, empathizing with people outside your circle, and considering how your words will be received. I hope you find Lemmy to be a place where you feel comfortable contributing.

[–] Dabadoo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

For now it’s great! I loved newspapers and was a co-editor on my high school paper. Reading and writing have always been favorite things for me to do. Thanks for your time in the newspaper business. Wonder how many here still seek the goodness of that medium that was also largely lost?

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The biggest thing I'll miss isn't actually being on reddit but the fact that basically any time you needed to look up somthing you could just google it and add site:reddit.com and find some good threads about it.. it's been a valuable knowledge base.

[–] chraqs@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Agreed, I feel like the social part of reddit is pretty easily replaceable but the amount of niche and specialised information was incredible

[–] timkenhan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Isn't there the reddit archive project?

[–] elauso@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also do this, but even before the recent turmoil I started losing confidence and trust. Brands know about this trick and they know how much consumers trust honest reviews by real people.

Generative AI like ChatGPT makes it easier than ever to flood subs with search-engine friendly posts and comments how awesome product X is...

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

True.. look at reviews too for instance. Feels like more and more of them are generated by their owners in different ways to trick people. Same with tracks on spoitfy and so on as well, companies script playing their tracks all the time so they'll end up higher in rankins.

It's really starting to be hard to find anything that's honest these days.

[–] sensibilidades@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed, although I do love that their own search engine was complete dogshit. That said, many of the posts I found really useful were at least five years old, sometimes as old as 12. In some ways it may be good for the knowledge base to update a bit. Actually, are Lemmy posts searchable the same way as Reddit?

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

i miss the memes, the rest of it is toxic

[–] jvilhuber@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Be the change you want to see. Start a community, advertise it, start bring the reddit folks over here.

[–] parlaptie@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Personally I'm eagerly awaiting Reddit's demise.

[–] blade_imaginato@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, to be honest, I used the reddit mobile app and I loved reddit and I'm also sad to see it go. However, nothing lasts forever.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I prefer non-corporate alternatives, like lemmy or mastodon. However, if it's going to last, users are going to have to contribute what they can to keeping the lights on, otherwise, if lemmy grows, they'll have to resort to things like ads to cover their costs and it will become reddit all over again.

[–] FearTheCron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, we are on the ground floor here. Let's find something that keeps the lights on and gives everyone the incentives they need to make a great community!

Perhaps a good start would be a page that gives statistics about the time and money required to run an instance. I really appreciate those who have dedicated their time money and reputation to start things up. Lets find a way to build a better social media experience together.

I think many of us would be OK with a number of different models, donations, non-intrusive ads, reasonable subscription fees, etc. Perhaps there could even be incentives for people who put time into building communities by moderating or other tasks. The important thing in my opinion is that everyone feels they contributed to the structure in a way that they want to keep participating.

Edit: I found a budget page from the donation link on the side bar of the main page of lemmy.world.

[–] WhiteBreadBuddha@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm feeling pretty good about Lemmy, honestly. I wasn't sure how I was going to fill my downtime, but this and mastodon may just pan out for me

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You're using it.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Life on the net is the life of a nomad fleeing a string of manmade apocalypses.

Missing Reddit is better than mourning what it'll end up as when the screws start to tighten (when you have a captive audience, stage 2 is ramping up the ads).

[–] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I've been on Reddit for almost 15 years and it's just gotten too big and too moderated for me.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I feel the same way. I love how reddit had very active communities for pretty much all my interests. Lemmy is not bad but you have to make it happen and who knows if it will happen..

[–] Evil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm actually kinda glad reddit is dying, this seems like a much better place. Short term it's a pain but long term I have a good feeling about this platform

[–] Lunar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reddit has always had a massive problem with misogynists, racists, pedophiles, etc. and the staff never does anything about it until there's media attention. They monopolized the web forum medium which basically forced communities to have to exist on that extremely toxic, hate-filled website.

I'd say I'm elated to see it go, but to be honest I don't think it is going anywhere. With any luck, Lemmy will become a vibrant community while all the assholes stay on the site they deserve.

Edit: Also, Reddit is designed to be addictive and has a reputation for it's negative, doomscroll-inducing atmosphere. Then there's the whole race-to-the-top karma system that ensures that Reddit has a monoculture where all the replies are predictable and similar.

Fediverse platforms aren't built around being addictive and in general tend to be more positive and diverse, making them feel large in spite of actually being significantly smaller than mainstream platforms.

[–] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a bummer Reddit went the way it did. But here we are. I'll miss it to a point. Still figuring out Lemmy, we'll see how it goes. I've tried Mastodon a bit as well but it feels more like Twitter to me, which I used for maybe a week years ago. No thanks.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I never got into Twitter and was freaked out by the content on Mastodon. I just want a nice chill community that shares interesting information/news/facts/pics.

[–] Tugboater203@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It was their crappy mobile UI and app that drove me to Relay for Reddit. Now that they're getting pushed out I'm done, it's going to hurt a bit but it's the right thing to do.

[–] smokinjoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I love the thrill of discovering something new on the internet, and then sharing the content with my friends.

Reddit substituted that thrill by localizing it through all the niche subreddits, but as time went on it was obvious how dangerous that can be.

I'm personally excited to get back to exploring.

The downside is that the internet of 2023 is not the internet of 2013, and definitely not the internet of 2003 - but that doesn't have to be encumbering.

But I understand that most people don't want to work for that shit. Hopefully the added competition spurs innovation from all over.

[–] dear_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I also feel sad about leaving Reddit. It's been a constant in my routine for almost a decade. If I needed anything - opinions, suggestions, advice - about literally anything I'd immediately head to Reddit. It's bittersweet having to leave, but I know deep in my heart there was no other way especially with how it was going and how it was treating its users. But honestly seeing a new, fresh feed actually felt... nice. I don't see much negativity. I actually see people replying to each other mostly decently. There's not a lot of trolling or passive aggressiveness. I feel hopeful that this will be the start of seeing healthier communities and more positive interactions. In any case, if you're here anyway, you're a part of the group of people who don't think what's happening on the other side is acceptable, so it's already a pretty great filter if you think about it.

[–] SameUser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Eh, I've left other sites. Reddit has been going downhill for years.

[–] godless@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this point I'm wondering whether people will stick to reddit even if they pull a 180 on api pricing and all. The whole smear campaign against Apollo and others just underlines they can't be trusted.

[–] zacher_glachl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure most redditors won't care enough to leave. I predict the only people actually leaving will be old guard (like 35+) and FOSS nerds who pine for the good old days of the internet and/or otherwise have ideological qualms with the changes. Everyone else will just grumble and get the ad infested, inferior official app.

[–] Leer10@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I want the more the merrier as long as we can moderate the more toxic tendencies, but at this moment I'm also pleased that much of the folks and vibes are much like reddit when i first joined

[–] dougg3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This reminds me so much of the mass digg exodus of 2010. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tricky thing is going to be the onboarding process for laypeople. Problem with the fediverse is helping people wrap their heads around servers. People think the server is the "community." And it kind of is, and it kind of isn't. Servers are a community of people, but severs also host capital C "Communities" within them.

This is probably the biggest thing holding back the adoption of the fediverse. This user experience problem hasn't been cracked. Onboarding isn't intuitive.

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The confusion is the signup process and front page

If when you joined instead of picking a user name it was username @lemmy.world or @beehaw.org then people would see it more like an email address.

Then when you reach the front page instead of showing server admin picks, it should show a list of popular communities across servers and then the alternative local version with some text at the top explaining multiple versions of some communities exist and you can subscribe to both.

[–] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh boy, I'm more confused now!

So there are global and local communities?

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Oh, no, that's confusing...

Fight to the death between forums I guess

[–] watchdog@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sure it’s a pipe dream atm, but I’m just hoping fediverse will have a unified method to look up archived posts across all platforms. Unfortunately, it’s probably very difficult to set up because indexing would take forever given the exponentially increasing amount of content. I used to use Reddit to look up a lot of video game info/memes. Reddit’s search engine was garbage, but at least I could find info from older game guides from 10+ years ago. My main concern is that a lot of indie game devs are directing people to talk about their games on Discord, which is terrible for archiving information.

[–] hallucination@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

With Google getting increasingly worse, reddit is usually where I find what I'm looking for in a sea of blog spam. And while I personally think Discord is absolutely great as a chat plaform it is nowhere near close as being a reddit replacement. Everything posted in there is silo'd and not searchable from outside.

[–] ilikedatsyuk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For sure, but what makes Reddit special are the users, the content, and the discussions. The admins add no value.

We can recreate the communities in a distributed and federated way so that we never find ourselves in the same situation again.

[–] varadin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This. One thousand percent - this.

We are ground floor. Be active! Make this the community you want it to be!

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure community admins add value in well run subs, but I take your point.

[–] rarkgrames@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know it's funny, I thought I would be sad to see Reddit go but I've been lurking here on Lemmy for a day or two and I've realised that Reddit actually was a pretty toxic environment a lot of the time.

I will miss some of the long running in-jokes (broken arms, coconuts etc.) but overall maybe moving on from Reddit is a good thing.

I hope Reddit doesn't die entirely though. It does have some uses, particularly if you need help on a. particular topic. The specialist subreddits have a large amount of knowledge available through their subscribers and I've often turned to them for help on a tech issue when I have something I can't answer with a quick Google search (for example, a weird issue with Sonarr which wasn't covered by the *arr wiki) and it would be great if this doesn't go away.

What I am sad about is seeing the demise of some great 3PA (I was an Apollo user). The amount of work put in by the devs is huge, and this is their livelihood being destroyed. So for folks like Christian I do feel bad.

I'm interested to see how Reddit comes out of the other side of the blackout. Wait and see I guess.

[–] PsychoticBananaSplit@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Narwahl Bacons at Midnight

[–] AMull@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is tragic. But on the plus side I think this transition will be a lot smoother than trying to leave twitter since here you don't have to individually find everyone you want to follow, just show up at the proper forums.

[–] uhauljoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idk, i'm having kind of a hard time. i have a lot of niche subs on reddit that don't seem to be on lemmy. i feel like i did when i first started reddit and just saw all the default pics/music/gaming subs

[–] Syo@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can still use Reddit, just now many users have a motivation to diversify their information platforms. Fediverse does that, and only ask that your new content, discussions, and questions be added in the fediverse instead. To help growth here.

For example, I curious about SFF PC building and, yup, Reddit already had a sub for that. If I have future questions I'll just post them on /m/technology instead.

[–] AdmiralSnackbar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I agree with this. As part of the Fediverse while it's still small, it's our job to build it up by creating content here.

[–] HybridSarcasm@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Fuck u/spez