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[–] robbotlove@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (1 children)

when Russia becomes the third world nation in a proxy war.

[–] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago (43 children)

Russia has been a third world nation since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Politicians just like to use the Russian boogeyman to scare people who remember the Cold War. Putin may be a monster, but China is the real threat.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 82 points 2 years ago (41 children)

Just an endless slew of clickbait "China bad" headlines all the time. Really makes you wonder about if there is some sort of systemic problem with western media.

[–] Novman@feddit.it 69 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Be careful, saying something like that might get you called a wumao

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

If you want to see consent being manufactured, go into the Telegraph and click through to the journalist's ~~post history~~ article history

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

It's going to be hilarious in a year or so when we'll have LLM bots churning these types of articles out even at respected news outlets, and all critics of this narrative will still get smeared as being bots themselves

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[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Whaaat? But China said they weren't doing that. China wouldn't just lie like that, would it?

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[–] anoncpc@hexbear.net 73 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, if you go to aliexpress, you could buy Chinese made helicopter, drones and metals. Thank you the telegraph for the basic info

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (74 children)

China: sends Russia six helicopters (before the war), some children's toys, a box of consumer-grade hunting scopes, and metal. They are the bad guys who are prolonging the war.

NATO: sends Ukraine weapons and military vehicles worth more than China's entire military budget, and provides training and logistics support. They are the good guys trying to end the war.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

The liberals only read the titles and then come straight to the comment sections so they don't actually realise any of this unless you spell it out for them.

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Focusing on Chinese drones that end up in Russia while completely ignoring the Chinese drones that end up in the Ukraine is some cherry picking I expected from the Telegraph. Products and components are made in China, which shouldn't come as a surprise.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (11 children)

This is referring to consumer level drones too right? Like DJI stuff?

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[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Telegraph is the only one reporting this, we're supposed to believe a sensationalist conservative tabloid?

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[–] jonhanson@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China is widely suspected of supplying Russia with equipment and materials to support their war, however no-one has adduced anything concrete to support that theory so far.

The article itself doesn't cite much in the way of sources or evidence, other than mentioning a report by Molfar, the open source intelligence agency. Molfar has published reports on the same topic in the past, but there hasn't been anything recently.

If the Telegraph had new information or evidence they would be shouting a lot louder than this. This is most likely them covering up for a quiet day by dredging up some old rumours and repackaging them as news.

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[–] Staines@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (12 children)

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

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[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 2 years ago (25 children)

Beijing issued a 12-point “peace statement” earlier this year that rehashed its position and did not propose any solutions to ending the war.

You obviously didn't read it then...

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