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TO THE ADMINS: Read this thread and give me one good reason why federating with toxic, propaganda spreading tankie loons is a good idea.

No one wants those fucks, or the alt right dipshits for that matter, around, and they're spreading blatant lies, yet I see they are here. Does lemm.ee only care about boosting its numbers and is willing to sink to new lows to do it, I wonder? πŸ€”

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im sure many in ur instance want us β€œfucks” around. where is the lie btw? if its so blatant you should be able to back up ur refutation w evidence

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

For the time being, I have no plans to change our federation policy. I realize this is not what you want to hear, and I'm sorry to disappoint you. It's just not a goal for lemm.ee to curate external instances for now.

There are probably many instances out there that have horrible content (content which would get users banned if they posted it on lemm.ee), but vetting instances and maintaining a defederation list is a big effort, and I believe this effort is much better spent elsewhere.

I've stated this in many other similar threads, but let me also reiterate here: the above should not be taken to mean that lemm.ee is some bastion of free speech absolutism. Users or communities breaking rules on lemm.ee are dealt with. Also, we do reserve the right to defederate any instance which starts causing problems for lemm.ee on a bigger scale (so in cases where banning individual users is not effective).

I realize this is a topic where it's impossible to make everybody happy, because each person has their own view on what should be federated or defederated. At the end of the day, for anything that's not illegal or directly hurting lemm.ee, I believe it's best to leave these decisions up to users - you can make your own choices with which users and communities you block, and I'm certain that soon you'll have the tools built in to Lemmy itself to make the same decision on an instance level as well. And if that doesn't work for you, then there's always the possibility of joining a different instance with a different approach to federation.

[–] Ilikecheese@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks for this attitude. Lets me know I’m on the right instance. I want to be able to choose who I block, and I don’t want someone else choosing that for me.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

For the record, I changed my opinion regarding hexbear. While I generally very much appreciate the open federation policy, I think users from that instance overwhelmingly deteriorate the culture in comment sections. Appreciable individual exceptions exist.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

🀦 Wasted my time and effort on a garbage instance again.

[–] PizzaDeposit@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've personally found the hexbear locals to be really inclusive, and pleasant to interact with. I couldn't say I agree with the totality of their political outlooks, but I've not found them particularly unreasonable.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What about the Lemmygrad retards trying to claim Tianamen Square didn't happen? How the hell is that reasonable or okay?

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

probably best not to call people retards if you want to stay on the high road

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Probably best to not try to scrape the bottom of the barrel when defending authoritarians pushing lies and propaganda. Like, if you're going to go for a red herring, you could at least tone police me; that would at least be more plausible and less petty. Step your game up

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

i happen to agree with your point, however i don’t think it’s kind to people with a disability to use that disability as an insult

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't have an opinion, because I really haven't interacted with the Lemmygrad folks. Their instance culture just isn't really my bag, so I don't find much opportunity or common ground to engage.

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[–] nkiruanaya@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I want to hear all viewpoints. Don't talk for me. You can block if you're against diversity, equity, and inclusion.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don’t even go to this school, but here’s a picture of the Tiananmen massacre. Tank man was a badass

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate these instances too but don't want to change the instance policies. Pretty soon instance blocking should become a thing and you'll be able to block them outright.

[–] Bakzik@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You know? We are open to discussions and polite exchanges in Hexbear. If there is good faith (and no racism, hate, ableism, homophobia, etc) there are a lot of bridges to build and learn.

But you came to Hexbear to start shit. And now you are resurrecting a 2 days old post because you are angry about not receiving upvotes in our instance.

che-smile

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Are these tankies in the room with us right now?

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please don't defederate because others have different views. There's an ocean of difference between right wing fascists advocating for the elimination, enslavement, or oppression of innocent peoples and "tankies" who ultimately want to help people even if they have a different path to get there and some can be dicks about it.

[–] misk@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Modern day tankies are indistinguishable from fascists since they shill for fascist shitholes like Russia and China. I don't care about intent, everyone can lie about it. You can't lie about outcomes.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tankies claiming the Tianamen Square massacre didn't happen are pretty toxic

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