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I'm about halfway done with the last season of the Revolutions podcast and up to date with Blowback. I'm probably going to be looking for another fun history podcast to listen to soon to throw into my rotation with The Dollop, to break up the pop culture, comedy, or news podcasts.

I recently listened to the Kissinger episodes of Behind the Bastards and they seemed pretty informative and funny. Also apparently it's by some old Cracked people, and I'm a fan of all those old Cracked content creators. But the first episode says it's about Stalin, so I'm guessing it's like in the progressive but lib direction? I don't mind, just want peoples thoughts on it before I decide to start or look for something else. How is it for people who have listened to it?

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They're NATO liberals, the host talks about directly working with federal law enforcement, the host unironically uses the word "tankie", he's written for bellingcat and defends them when people correctly point out they're an NED cut-out, and he "adopted" a teenager he found at protests who moved in with him and started co-hosting his podcast with him.

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

mmm sounds like it deteriorated further than my last encounter

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I quit listening long before 2022 but I believe the host is of the slava ukraini "anarchist" bent

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the Steven Seagal episodes, Fedvans calls Yanukovich the former dictator of Ukraine, so...yeah.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Idk about the adoption thing. That's why they suddenly got so many other projects?

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

The kid had just started being the guest host and co-host on a bunch of episodes around the time I quit listening, I think it was somewhere around 2020 or maybe early 2021. Kid was a runaway from Canada if I recall correctly who was sleeping rough and doing "citizen journalism" at the protests in Portland when Evans met him and took him in. No details other than that, just seemed like a very weird situation.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's fine when it's episodes about weird American jerks

Like that guy what used to give people goat testicle transplants

But basically anytime it goes on about anyone outside of the Imperial Core, he goes full on LIB

Also, his jokes about machetes are boring and my machete collection is cooler anyway

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I enjoyed the episodes about bad novels from the likes of Shapiro and Limbaugh, then again I am a lib of course.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Worst part of the novel episodes is how little they get into the books. I wanna know how terrible they get past the 2nd or 3rd chapters.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

Would probably be a good podcast on its own

But that would require a degree of effort

[–] piccolo@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

The behind the bastards subreddit (which I think is connected to the show) was censoring posts about the Zionist entity's ongoing genocide and they seem to be NATO shills overall. Robert Evans is a fed (or at the very least fed-adjacent). If I were you I'd pick something else.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

As well as everything else that's already been said, there's just a shitload of ads in this podcast.

Apparently Fedvans has even done ad reads for Betterhelp, the incredibly shady "mental health" company.

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody's mentioned that Fedvan's constant attempts at humor are intolerable. I listen to an episode now and then if it's on someone I truly hate, and he just says something crass and/or horny with a tone of voice that means he's being funny. I hate it.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

evans was 100% a zany sporkposter in the 2010s and he hasn't outgrown that sense of "humor"

wooaahh I'm so wacky I'm throwing things in this room like a baby in a highchair, wowee, now I have a knife! big scary knife ha ha ha this is so zany and funny

I guarantee he does over-the-lines "weird" shit when he gets drunk and makes everyone uncomfortable but he's convinced he's the life of the party

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

I guarantee he does that when he's drunk and I also guarantee he does it when he's not drunk.

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

I used to listen to the show a lot and a lot of his "humor" felt like he has an internal script of how to make a joke, and just keeps using that for every joke hes made since middle school. Its been years since I listened so maybe he's gotten better

He was also really bad with going off of jokes or comments the guests made, it was always like they were interrupting him whenever they tried talking

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

Robert Fedvans hasn't seen a contemporary american coup that he didn't like. He has defended the destruction of Libya, Euromaidan, the Bolivia coup, is against every counter-imperialist force out there... He's a lib, and a real shitty one.

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

I listened to the Hitler episode and they didnt mention the spartacist uprising once.

LIB

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The only time I tried to listen I didn't like the vibe of the lead dude, especially for putting his face up front like "look at ME, this is MY show about ME"

I had no idea they were actually fucking feds but I'm delighted to have vibed him correctly

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know the host is a progressive but yeah definitely lib. I'm curious if it gets better. I only listened to one episode before covid but they said something so amazingly lib & NED-approved & uneducated which, after waiting to make sure it didnt seem like a bit they were doing, I turned it off and never returned.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He does not get better. Genuinely, 'apolitical' QAnonAnonymous are more radical, and they are literally tied in with high level mainstream journalists.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe I'll do what someone else implied and just listen to episodes about Bastards in the Imperial core that I want to know about, rather than going from beginning to end like I would for other non-news podcasts I start. I basically already started doing that with the Kissinger episodes.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

If a story about a figure is funny, they will include it as fact even if there is no evidence for the claim. Like how Stalin definitely routinely used tomatoes as whoopie cushions.

Which just kinda shows that they will believe every little bit of propaganda that comes their way.

[–] Anxious_Anarchist@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could give Respect The Dead a shot, it's a similar idea to Behind The Bastards but I find it to be a lot funnier and less lib.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the recommendation!

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Liberal shit. Huffing their own farts. No substance.

Laughing at their own shit jokes constantly.

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

The fed host did an episode about a libertarian theme park where the owner did SA stuff. He treated it as a joke to laugh about. Really says it all.

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know I'm in the minority around here, but I enjoy it, I don't agree with him all the time, but I don't agree with most people most of the time.

Fwiw, I also enjoy the Dollop and Even More News (speaking of old cracked people).

You just kind of have to take it all with a grain of salt and assume that there's some bias and mistakes built in. That's not any different than I would treat any other online content though.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Appreciate the other perspective!

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

It's mostly fine and I find it entertaining, but the ads are really annoying. The Marxist complaining about him always seems a little bad faith to me because it's almost always about how he used to write for bellingcat and not about the actual content.

Their daily news show is cringe as fuck though.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was in the same position as you with Revolutions completely done and Blowback up to date. Check out People's History of Ideas, a Marxist historian that covers the Chinese Communist revolution. It is amazing.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Ooh thanks for that suggestion. It's probably the one I will know the least about once I finish this season of Revolutions (because it's not covered by either podcast lol).

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that guy is Marxist yes but he would be cooler if he got down with Deng

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

I think Deng might be vindicated in the long run, China seems to be doing alright, so he is no Gorbachev.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Bastard behind behind the bastards

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago
[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

Robert Fedvans

[–] imaginaryplaces@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

You could check out The Anti-Empire Project.