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[–] Roggebrood 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Ottoman Empire never ruled in east Arabia (apart from Muscat) or in the central areas, did they?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There was the Lahsa eyalet along the Persian gulf for ~100 years, and for the interior I guess the few years immediately after the Wahabbi war would count?

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

and for the interior I guess

It's just sand. Doesn't really matter. 🙃

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

More people live in that sand than live in Switzerland

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The population of al-Mintaqah ash-Sharqīyah (eastern province) is 5 Million. Population density of 7.3/km^2

The population of Switzerland is 9 million. Population density of 207/km^2.

It's SAND, bro.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 10 months ago

For a start, that's the bit that is roughly the same area as the Lahsa eyalet, not the interior. Riyadh province, which is in the middle bit, has eight and a half million people. Add in al-Qassim province which is also in that area and you have ten million.

But also, just generally... five million people is a lot of people. It's not like it's even a particular outlier in terms of density. The eastern province is more densely populated than Canada.

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 4 points 10 months ago

ottoman borders feel exaggerated

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Interesting, but missing the Islamic empire that conquered all that Byzantine territory in the 600s. It stretched from Pakistan to Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests

[–] Roggebrood 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then you'd have like double the colors on the map.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's a problem for the map maker.

[–] Roggebrood 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we can also add the Macedonian Empire while we are at it

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well this is the "yurop" community and they didn't control any part of modern day "Europe". No, Turkey isn't European. It's always been Asia Minor.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

Uh, Macedonia? Greece?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

And for me trying to understand the damn thing

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

The Sasanian Empire would be more contemporary.