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I'm still dumbfounded by the sheer number sycophant and adulator that keeps believing the everchanging nonsense he is peddling.

Despite being proven a liar on a regular basis and destroying the lives of even his closest so called allies and friends.

I just wonder what their daily lives are like to be so gullible and never realising that they are being lied to or being taken advantage of. On the contrary, they insult/trample/lash out against anyone trying to help them or even just trying to understand them.

Well, I have given them all the empathy I could muster (amongst the handful of people I knew).

Lying to more than, let' say, 100 individual (simultaneously to an audience or separately the same lie to different persons) should entail concrete consequence. For example, being confined to their home for a certain amount of weeks/months without access to TV, internet and other means of electronic/immediate information/communication so as to let them simmer in their thoughts for the duration. Whether they are the president of a company/country attempting a subterfuge or a edgy 13 years old trying to impress their classmates.

Having immediate consequence for proven lies would have solved so many past and current problems and impending crisis (from climate change, antivax, cults, PFAS/pesticides to the subprime mortgage fiasco, tobacco/asbestos disinformation, Libor rate, Enron, Theranos, Boeing 737 MAX, Volkswagen emissions, the ongoing cryptocoin/NFT craze, the list is truly endless... ). Small lies eventually leads to bigger and bigger lies until it's too late.

Obviously, some lies are sometime necessary to still perform what most would consider to be in good faith. For example, preparing a surprise birthday party for someone and everyone participating having to lie to keep them in the dark until moment is right to reveal the surprise. Or, parents making stories to reassure their children in a difficult or unexpected situation.

In the majority of those "in good faith" situations, the number of people being lied to are limited to less than 20 individual and usually only for a known limited period of time. Hence, my undocumented 100 person treshold. If one has to convey the same lie to more than 50 people they should rethink whatever they are up to.

... Welp, I got sidetracked again ...

Politician who blatantly lie to get elected would have never been an issue. They can be "mistaken" or "misremembering" until they are proven incorrect. Which they will have to rectify and therefore cannot continue to peddle the same lie or would be locked at home without any means of outside communication for a non trivial amount of time.

The profusion of misinformation will be the downfall of our societies, before even the climate crisis ruins us, if not dealt with in time with the seriousness it requires.

Interesting to see what an active post looks like on Lemmy. At time of this comment, there are 672 comments and the pot itself has 2721 score total.

A conspiracy to defraud the United States “by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to obstruct the nation’s process

This really describes his whole presidency

Fox News talking about Hunter Biden. I would have never guessed.

Bummer that it looks like we lost a bunch of top notch comments in one of the original threads...but to answer one question I tried to reply to right as the other threads were replaced with the megathread.

Judging by #1's links to phone calls to senators/reps on 6JAN I'd say that's Rudy. Since he's a bumbling idiot and called the wrong numbers we have the voicemail he intended to leave for Tuberville.

Reports say Eastman's lawyers confirmed he is #2, but I couldn't find a link so we'll have to wait for confirmation on that one.

Edit: Looking at page 30 I would assume #4 is Jeffrey Clark, as WH council was trying to dissuade him from taking the role of acting AG.

Edit again: My guess for #5 is Kenny Chesebro, with a name like that I shouldn't have forgotten about him but he was critical in the fake elector plot.

Last edit(?): Boris Epshteyn might be behind door #6, putting this in comments and I'll leave it if I'm wrong!

Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!

Am I doing it right? 🤔

I think the document's indictment will secure a conviction more easily than this, even if this is the one that should see him sent to prison forever.

The reason is simple - the documents crime is self evident - removal of classified documents, attempts to hide their return and an obvious attempt to obstruct an investigation into their whereabouts.

Where as the Jan 6 stuff has enough of a complex timeline that prosecution could screw it up, or the defendant's lawyers could throw all the co-conspirators under a bus to exclaim Trump was simply given bad advice by his lawyers.

If you think this is great, wait until you see who's going to be judging him!

I hope at least one of the six craps his pants and spills the beans. It would be so gratifying to see him and his gang put away for good.

If justice gets the the orange monkey by the ears with theses cases, would it mean that he will not be fit to hold an office?

So the rumor mill in Washington D.C. circles on co-conspirator #6 appears to be targeting Boris Epshteyn.