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[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 208 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Meanwhile Japanese people, for all their faults, put a fucking mask on when they get a cold because that's seen as a decent thing to do.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, but they're still expected to come into work even when they're ready to fall over.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you think America is bad, you really need to look more into Japanese Black Companies. They really take the cake on toxic work cultural. Imagine being socially obligated to get black out drunk with your boss.

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

'If you think America is bad' is wholly unnecessary when you consider that socialized healthcare hardly exists, public education is a living corpse of severely underpaid teachers, mass shootings (I've been in one), mandatory cost of car ownership, and so many other fucked up things.

I'm not saying that Japan is a good place to live, because it has a myriad of it's own problems and I personally wouldn't want to live there. I just think we should give people some credit for the shit Americans put up with too.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

True story: Stalin did this every night with his inner circle. Attendance was mandatory assuming you wanted to live.

Behind the bastards did a great episode on it.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hmmm. Death or all your coworkers slightly judging you? White collar work sounds annoying.

[–] Jayu@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

... It's doubly true for blue collar workers in Asia.

White collar workers get like 15-20 days off a year in Korea, and these are also used for sick days - at enlightened companies, you can work from home on a sick day and have it not count as leave...

I don't know that much about what goes on in blue collar work, but something tells me the workplaces for natives just that are just a few steps above the blue collar labor done by migrants living in barracks in isolated locales working 60+ hour weeks aren't the type to liberally give sick days.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If it weren't for the work culture, I would love to live in Japan.

[–] madscience@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's true, they hate us*.

*Anyone that isn't Japanese

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

We make it so easy

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

My boyfriend is in nursing school, and they have some sort of program where you can move there and get a house for cheap, if not free. I'm sure they're not great houses and would need some work done, but still a great deal. We considered it for a hot minute...

But then I started thinking about that stuff, and did some more research into what it's like to move there. Some really awesome aspects to it, but I think we are gonna pass.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is the decent thing to do. Well the most decent thing is to isolate yourself when you're sick.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago

I just stay home when I'm sick ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Haven't they been seeing a rise in anti mask/vaxxers since covid misinformation during initial lockdowns?

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know. But I do know masking up when sick was a thing even before covid.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago

It's an ugly fact of human nature that we see way higher levels of social responsibility in relatively ethnically homogeneous societies like Japan.