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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think most of us understand how things are. The problem is the one's whose opinions matter don't give a fuck about changing anything because they're at the top of the hierarchy. They benefit from treating the rest of us like shit.

It's kind of a worthless statement really.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The ones at the top of the hierarchy aren't the ones instilling these toxic ideals of masculinity in to young men. Parents and peers are perpetuating this on a personal level.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because if you don't adhere to these ideals you won't be successful in life. You won't get anywhere in your career. Women aren't going to date you. You'll be bullied and beaten down at every turn. Until something changes at the top these parents and peers are doing them a favor.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've rejected these ideals my whole life. I was bullied as a kid but once I got out of school I found my people and never looked back. Never had a problem with women, the ones I dated found my emotional openness attractive. I'm successful in my professional life, tech lead at a financial software company.

I understand that different places have different degrees of pressures for this kind of thing, but what you're saying is a lie. You've been programmed by the system to believe it and it is probably making you miserable. And if you have kids, it'll make them miserable too. It doesn't have to be that way. I feel bad for you.