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[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sorry but this is a good thing. Earths population is too large for the resources available.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My instinct is that you’re right, but I wonder if what we’re really saying is that earth’s population is too large under the currently dominant socioeconomic and lifestyle constructs.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

It's clearly the current lifestyle. Africans are destroying the world much less than the industrialized world because they're too poor to live the climate-wrecking lifestyle of the West.

A key issue though is that it takes a while for lifestyles to change. The higher the population, the quicker the switch needs to be done to avoid catastrophic consequences.

If the Earth's population were 100 million, it might be fine to take a century to switch away from fossil fuels. But at nearly 10 billion, if it takes a century, the results will be catastrophic.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

In the end, that's more or less the same thing. But the question is, do we need more people? It's also easier to be sustainable if we require less.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

I mean, yes but also no. There's just way too many people, period. Merely 60 years ago the human population was sitting around 3 billion people. Now it's 8. Earth's resources are finite, and at this rate of growth I would not be surprised if we ran out of non-renewables (with no renewable alternatives that scale as well as non-renewables) in our lifetime or our children's.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The esteemed Mr. Malthus wrote about it. The admirable J. Swift has also written a wonderful proposal for how we may deal with it.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lots of ecofascist Maltusianism in this thread. Not surprising since the reddit logo migration has happened.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Big oof. Eco-fascism ahoy!

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

sorry comrade, but under capitalism any amount of people is too much as capitalism itself is predicated on infinite growth.

Absolutely true and correct.