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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

"The USSR was a good thing, actually" is maybe the worst possible argument you could have made here lol

The unpleasant reality is, Russians, like the Chinese, have never, in all their long history, existed without authoritarian rule. Their people are culturally inured to it. They actively seek it. They're broken, as a society, and only dissolving their society will cure them.

Balkanize Russia and China. It's the only way.

[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I did not say it was good I said it was not a hellscape. Just like China is authoritarian and yet hundreds of millions seem to be happy with it so were millions of Soviet citizens.

You cannot overlook that there was a huge decline in the average quality of life for many/most immediately following the demise of the USSR. That harmed many many people.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Their people like it because their culture clamors for strongman, authoritarian leadership. They're ill, culturally.

Everything about the USSR was objectively bad, just like being hooked on heroin is objectively bad. That some addicts fucking love heroin is immaterial.

Detoxing is painful, and rather than detox, the Russian people relapsed.

[–] iain 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have North Korea level indoctrination my friend. Stop seeing the world so black and white, you sound like a teenager.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

No I just understand history.

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