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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Warmongers being… the country currently undergoing a genocide from a global superpower? If you come to my home and shoot my kid, I’m not a warmonger for returning fire.

Here your kids are getting shot to death in schools, but as far as oppressive global superpowers go, read up on how the US has been helping Saudi Arabia starve and decimate Yemen for the last eight years. But, to be clearer, the warmongers I refer to are the ones taking a trillion of our tax dollars every year and funneling them into their own companies and the other eight wars we're already hopelessly entangled in.

I'm all for Ukraine fighting this war... on their own. I just don't appreciate seeing our people impoverished and neglected because of it.

And the idea that the reason our programs at home are underfunded is a result of foreign aid is complete bullshit.

False. Canada spends $23 billion a year on war. They have universal health care. We 100% lack universal health care because we're spending over a trillion a year on war, and now, another $1,015,000,000 billion on another country's war. (On top of the tens of billions we already gave them in charity.)

[–] IgnoreKassandra@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're not talking about Saudi Arabia and Yemen, we're talking about Ukraine.

I'm all for Ukraine fighting this war... on their own.

So you're in favor of them being conquered and ethnically clensed. That's what happens without material support from western powers.

I just don't appreciate seeing our people impoverished and neglected because of it.

The American people were impoverished and neglected before the war in Ukraine, and they will be after. Letting Russia wipe out a vulnerable ethic group won't get you free healthcare.

Regardless, we could fund a universal healthcare system half a dozen different ways, and the American people would still save money not having to pay subsidies. The idea that it's a hard thing to fund in the richest country in the world is one of the biggest lies i government. The reason we don't have one isnt because we can't come up with the funds, it's that your politicians hate you and love pharma money.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Universal health care would be cheaper than what we're currently spending on our inefficient, greedy healthcare system. It's got nothing to do with how much we spend on war.

I'm in favor of moving us to universal health care, and then taking the savings and spending it on more bombs and bullets that we can send to Ukraine. What do you think about that plan? I'm going to guess you won't like it, because you don't give a shit about healthcare, you Putin-sucking tankie.