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[–] MCU_H8ER2@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is a very odd take

So is being a liberal.

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] MCU_H8ER2@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Another L for you.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Politically illiterate dumbass posts a self-own.

This image depicts liberals and fascists being close to each other, while the far-left (hexbear) is far away from them.

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. And that's what "hexbears be like".

Because you call anyone not far left a liberal, therefore not differentiating between people who are not far left.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Do you think fascism is something unique? Different from capitalism in some way?

Fascism is not unique or different from capitalism. It is capitalism converted into a format that allows the highest level of extreme violence to be carried out against its enemies. It occurs when capitalists feel threatened by socialists, gaining monetary support, media and backing from the bourgeoisie who recognise the need to use ultra-violence to exterminate the revolutionary threat to their existence. It is not a separate or unique thing to capitalism. It is still capitalism.

We only need to look at the places where fascism was not defeated to see proof of this. The fascists won in Spain and in Chile, they were not defeated like they were in Italy or Germany. What happened there? Did fascism ever become anything unique? No it did not. The fascists maintained and even increased capitalism, the term "privatisation" comes from Hitler himself. Over time in the countries where fascism won, once they defeated the left, exterminated them and their leadership, rendered them inert and no longer a threat to their bourgeoisie, these countries simply morphed back into liberalism which is a more efficient form of exploitation and extraction. Once the ultra violence was no longer required they morph back into "friendly" versions.

It is this that you are seeing when we discuss fascists and liberals in the same breath. They are allies in their support for capitalism and opposition to socialism.

And who exactly becomes the fascists? They don't simply spawn out of a spawning pool. They were liberals until the media, money and influence of the bourgeoisie backing the conversion of society to fascism successfully radicalises them to the cause.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I just see *removed externally hosted image*

here's a link to the picture this person posted https://lemdro.id/pictrs/image/d6c8a45d-d579-48de-903b-6d7f5f885fe0.jpeg

maybe I'm daft but this picture makes no sense to me. So leftists are on the left, liberals are in the middle, and... I guess the point is that instead of continuing rightward it loops back around to liberal again? Are you mocking leftists for lumping liberals and conservatives together?

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

They are all liberals. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. They are all ideologically committed to capitalism.