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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/12162

Why? Because apparently they need some more incentive to keep units occupied. Also, even though a property might be vacant, there's still imputed rental income there. Its owner is just receiving it in the form of enjoying the unit for himself instead of receiving an actual rent check from a tenant. That imputed rent ought to be taxed like any other income.

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[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Oh, so you just want the state to be your landlord? Enjoy your cinderblock gulag.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can vote for who runs the state, I can't vote for my landlord.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can rent from someone else. That’s actually easier than moving cities, states, or countries.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can I rent from someone who isn't a capitalist who's charging me way more than the cost of upkeep for the property to make a profit? Also even if we have a housing market wouldn't the option to live in public housing be good for less well off people to help drive down rents on the private housing market?

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If you want to argue that the government should develop low cost housing, that’s an interesting discussion. In general, “supply” regardless of how it’s created, is the answer to high housing prices. I do fear that you’ll be dissatisfied with the quality of that government housing.

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

No it's not. That's why you have houses and apartments for hypothetical millionaires going empty because no one can actually afford them. As long as homes and real estate have speculative value there is no guarantee that "supply" will positively affect prices or affect them enough to provide housing for everyone.

The simple fact that there are more empty homes and apartments than there are homeless people disproves your premise.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

I do fear that you’ll be dissatisfied with the quality of that government housing.

IDK Austria and a few other Euro nations seem to be pulling it off okay.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Socialism is...... When you own your own home??

spoileryes-sicko

che-smile

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yes, Socialism has home ownership.

The only thing that is state affiliated more than in Capitalism is the mean of production (businesses) being owned by the state. Everything else is still owned by individuals.

You are thinking of Communism.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

it's a play on "communism means no toothbrush*

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

A private domicile is not private property, so yes even under communism people will own thier own homes.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Western countries already provide resources for our less fortunate friends and neighbors. But we don’t use the police power of the state to force those resources on people that don’t want them. We also don’t round them up and force them to fight for our Moscovi overlords that are just a itsy-bitsy more equal than the rest of us. Hmmmm

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the west all of your children have the freedom to grow up as homeless crack heads living in tent cities, how inspiring.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

😂🤣😂

Median US Household Income - $70,784

Median Moscovi Household Income -$27,634

Well shit, little Yuri, looks like a good deal for us.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

now compare the amount of homeless people in both, also you linked the same article twice

btw now you have edited your article remind me, is russia a socilaist country or a neo-liberal one, like the USA?

you have linked me info of Russian from 2010-present, in what way am I remotely suggesting a capitalist, neo-liberal country is what im adovcating for?

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Homeless in the US - 0.2% of the population.

Homeless in Russia - 3.5% of the population.

Is this going the way you thought it would?

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where did I use modern day capitalist russia to prove my point again?

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Haha. Ok !lemmygrad 😂🤣😂. Here’s your L. Have a nice day.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 years ago

mfw countries where the median income is 10% of the USA's can provide more housing for the people living in it, you are so cucked lmao

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

them up and force them to fight for our Moscovi overlords that are just a itsy-bitsy more equal than the rest of u

Nice whataboutism you tankie! Centrist liberal tankie!!!

Western countries already provide resources for our less fortunate friends and neighbors

Lol. Lmao even

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s true. That’s why our homelessness incidence are less than 10% of yours. Maybe that’s why you’re trying to drive yours down by conscripting your homeless and forcing them into “former glory” wars?

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  1. Do you just assume that everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian?
  2. Did you forget Russia hasn't been communist for over three decades?
[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I assume, accurately, that all you hexbears are Russian trolls, Hindu Nationalists, or various flavors of pudgey man children collectively known as college communists who want to seize the means of production from their parents that didn’t give them enough hugs. Which flavor are you? I bet it’s the last one 😂

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

racism to own the gommies. gottem

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Lol. rACisM!!!1. Why don’t you just trot out the Hitler Card while you’re at it!

Here you go bro, I’ll give you that hug you’ve been desperately missing 🤗

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Hahahahahahahhahaha

You aren't a real person, 'opinion' discarded

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

You know what's worse than a cinderblock gulag? Homelessness.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh, so you just want the state to be your landlord? Enjoy your cinderblock gulag.

bootlicker

[–] Nicklybear@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

As someone who has been homeless, I would MUCH rather live my entire life in a "cinderblock gulag" then spend even a second homeless. So, yes, if we ever were to get such buildings provided to us from the government, I would greatly enjoy them.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you own property the state is already your landlord.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Well, then tell the government to come clean my gutter.