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[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Negotiated a 4 day work week at my current job.

It’s worth it, but it requires heavy self-moderation to do it at an organization where everyone is 5 days.

AMA.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What kind of self-moderation are we speaking? And what do your coworkers think. Do they consider talking about a 4 day work week with their employer, too?

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My coworkers, particularly middle managers in the US expressed some envy, but applauded my negotiation and support me. I let my partner in engineering know before I said yes because I didn’t want them being surprised.

Self-moderation:

  • I have to be incredibly intentional about limiting my working hours. No one’s going to tell me to go home and I’ll feel the pressure to stay so I just have to commit.
  • No checking email or work slack after working hours. No. Matter. What. Nothing on my personal devices. In fact my work laptop never leaves my office or my back porch. Not allowed in personal spaces. Like I get this is a “everyone should do it thing” but when I was working five days it just happened. Now I’m intentional about it never happening.
  • Having four days has honed my ability to both prioritize and say no. But it also means those stupid meetings that are easier to say yes to and just kind of be there, I’m much more actively turning down. It’s hard to have defend the boundaries. But it’s worth it.
[–] limerod@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, self-moderation and saying no are tough. But, if you relent once, you relent always. Never is better.

But it also means those stupid meetings that are easier to say yes to and just kind of be there, I’m much more actively turning down. It’s hard to have defend the boundaries. But it’s worth it.

It truly is. Hopefully, 4 day work will start to become the norm sooner rather than later. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How'd you manage to negotiate that? Must've needed you pretty bad if they were willing to relent an entire day. Salaried or hourly?

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Salaried.

I think it’s fair to say that I got lucky - you’re not wrong, they needed someone and I happened to have a very specific experience that matched with their need.

I met the team, I knew they liked me, and I really liked them. I also knew it was likely they couldn’t afford the comp I was getting at $lastjob.

My plan going in was to use that (scary to them, but very real) number to negotiate a four day work week at a full time salary. It worked out.

So far so good.