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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

JFC, just send them what they need already. At this point, it looks a lot like the support is just so that we can collect the payments later while extending the war. Thus ensuring Ukraine's continuing need for military support and future debts to be repaid.

They should have been trained on F-16s by a year ago now. You can train before you promise or send something. It's absolutely shameful how poorly we have helped Ukraine in this time of need.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Training should go hand in hand with delivering, otherwise that's just wasting Ukraine's resources.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

They don't plan to deliver until after the pilots and other crew are trained.

It’s not that simple. Ukraine is constantly targeted by cruise missile attacks - and while Russia is burning through their supply, these jets would be a priority target to track and destroy. A lot of pieces have to come together to make these jets deliverable and be useful, rather than just missile bait.