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[–] poofkaboom 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In college, I saw a sign that said something like 1 in 6 women will be sexually assaulted. Based on conversations with women around me and my own experiences, I’m pretty sure it’s actually 6 in 6 women.

Before you get upset, yes, I am aware men get assaulted too. That’s not okay either.

[–] poofkaboom 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I agree with this. Problem is that it is not done by most men, but this post makes it seem like most of them do or want to.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting. I interpreted it differently.

I saw it as women experience assault at such high levels, that they feel unsafe around strangers.

Whereas, men see it as an exciting opportunity, full of possibilities. Not necessarily that they intend to commit assault.

[–] KissMeNow@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 22 hours ago

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

but this post makes it seem like most of them do or want to.

The people commenting on the post are making this implication, the comic itself is bland and dumb and has been overplayed for the last 30 years as a pretty standard joke about the differences between men and women and doesn't really make a suggestion beyond "men and women have different concerns."

The problem is we are all internalizing both perspectives in the most toxic, anti-social ways imaginable and isolating ourselves more and more and making the divide worse and worse every year.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This post makes it seem that women need to prepare for assault even if not everyone will assault them.

[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Women would literally rather be stuck with a bear rather than a man they do not know. So, is it sexism? Or is there a fundamental problem (read patriarchy) that makes women scared of men.

Do you think it’s sexist to report that men commit 90% of all rape and sexual assault?

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its about as sexist to say that, as it is racist to spout crime statistics about black people without solution.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That is way more than just patriarchal society. If a woman would rather be stuck in a room with a bear than a man she doesn't know, there's something psychologically wrong with that woman.

The only way you'd choose a bear over a stranger is if you have a prejudice that all men are violent or rapists. Because the bear will most likely kill you.

[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Bears are predictable, they will probably run from you or maul you. They don’t kill for pleasure, they don’t keep you alive for a game, they don’t torture you.

The point is a women doesn’t know you, or what your capable of. They do know what bears are capable of.

Women are painfully aware it’s “not all men”. But women also can’t read minds and don’t know your intentions. Can you really blame someone for erring on the side of caution?

Choosing the bear over a stranger isn’t prejudice, it’s avoiding the fear of the unknown.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Calling bears predictable is something an overconfident documentary actor would do. A bear can at any moment decide to just rip you apart. Any "docile" zoo bear can still decide to just shred their keeper at some point.

But that's enough about the metaphor. The point was choosing between certain death and a human with all the possibilities that entails.

It wouldn't just be caution to choose death in that situation. It's paranoia to assume that any random man will just do horrible things to you. Going through life with that paranoia is nothing a mentally healthy person would do. I would definitely blame a woman who really thinks like that. It's not just crazy but also insulting on a personal level. But the good thing is that I don't have to be near any like that either.

[–] drath@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

You're giving too much credit to bears. They can chomp your face just because they feelt like it, or out of pure curiosity, and won't even notice you struggling to fight them off. Check some stories of zookepers and circus workers killed by them, you'll find that wild animals are completely unpredictable.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is like saying that recognizing gay people are assaulted more often is homophobic

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[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You've fallen for the classic blunder.

By jumping in and commenting, you have proven them right in their minds.

It's a thought terminating trap. Women are allowed to call out sexism when they see it against themselves, whereas men are not allowed to call out sexism when they see it against themselves.

[–] poofkaboom 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One user called me a rapist for this. Like wtf. How anything defending men can be converted to men are rapist pigs, is fascinating.

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

The reason these conversations are so unproductive is because some people take the wildest read of these jokes ("all men are rapists") and get offended by them, when the surface reading ("men like the idea of meeting a random woman, women do not like the idea of meeting a random man") is crystal clear and non-controversial. This joke could be from a Seinfeld opening monologue, it's such a generic piece of observational comedy.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It takes five minutes to find data that shows that this is very much not sexism.

[–] poofkaboom 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] kadup@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Number of dangerous outcomes when meeting a new person in a date by gender.

Violent crime by gender.

Rape events by gender.

Domestic break and entering by gender.

Pick your favorite?

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