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Does anybody know valid alternatives to proton mail, I think they have been enshitified
There is a relatively small number of shared Tor exit node IP addresses.
So it’s more likely using Tor will trigger “too many attempts for IP” throttling for any service with bot protection.
It’s nothing against Tor, but is an expected side-affect of attempting to be anonymous by sharing the same IP address with many people.
Tuta ? But only for mail AFAIK.
Mailbox.org (option if you want custom domain) or Posteo.de
I use posteo.de provider, it costs 1 eur for month, 3 adress, they have inbound encryption of emails as proton, also they dont accept crypto but you can pay by cash and card and "All of our payment methods are anonymised using a payment system developed by Posteo. We do not link payment information with email accounts." You can learn more about their privacy features on their site https://posteo.de/en/site/features#featuresprivacy
Why are you trying to sign up for Proton if you already use another provider?
i'm sorry can't you have multiple email accounts anymore? privacy and all that, remember?
Sure you can. Wouldn't that have been an easy excuse for this guy to reply with instead of all this defensive bullshit?
how this question is relate to my post about proton blocks registration through their onion site? sorry but I only interested in respond questions directly associated with this or other email providers. my decision to try proton as additional service should not be the problem...
Seems a fair question to ask someone who makes a post to direct people away from a service under the presumption that they were trying to use it, only to find in the comments that they already use a different service that they not only enjoy, but are happy to freely advertise for.
Also, your justification for their lack of crypto payments is that they use a payment system they designed themselves, which I find funny since most of the complaints I see about Proton (granted, not yours) is the unverifiability of their operations, leaning on "Just trust me, bro." which is the same thing as this site's payment processing system. 🤭
it's not a fair question people can use multiple email providers, especially a privacy conscious person would know that. proton logs your ip and gives it to the police when they ask, without warrent
They had a warrant.
It's okay to have privacy concerns regarding that, but don't make shit up to make it sound worse than it was.
Did you have so much free time to criticise me unstead of doing something important? Such a good decision.
Instead of being so defensive about it you could just answer the question.. Did you have so much free time you decided to try signing up for a service you had no intention of using just so you could complain about it?
You don't know if I signed up for posteo after or before tryibg with proton.
You are blocked now for offrnsive behaviour and insinuations about me.
Have a good day bro, LOL
Of course not, because you refuse to answer a simple question.
Just because you were offended doesn't mean I was being offensive. Learn the difference, kid.